May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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[TW]Fox;16439599 said:
It all confuses me really. If this guy is so unmentionable why do they all name each other the same name as him? Not sure I really understand how it all works, or why its such a big deal whether somebody who doesnt beleive in your faith draws your god or something?
Never understood that either.
 
[TW]Fox;16439599 said:
It all confuses me really. If this guy is so unmentionable why do they all name each other the same name as him? Not sure I really understand how it all works, or why its such a big deal whether somebody who doesnt beleive in your faith draws your god or something?

Because it allows Islamic countries to focus the anger and rage of their people on to an external enemy. If they didn't do that, they may actually take a moment to look around their own country and think "Hang on, how come we get to live in such a ****hole while the country is swimming in oil wealth and how come I don't enjoy anywhere near as much freedom as those nasty infidels?"
 
Could a mod please clear this issue up. Can we draw pictures in the interests of free speech (i realise the forums are not a democracy, hence why im asking ;)).

Btw, i've got GREAT picture which is to dodgy here. If you want it though, please send a message through trust :p
 
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I may be naiv here but isnt all religion based around a belief in god of sorts? i mean correct me if im wrong (which i very well could be) but if that beleif in your religions god is not there arnt you undermining the religion itself, surley then what you have would be faith?
Also to quote Helious1234 "I follow the morals that I have been taught which focus on helping people" are these not qualaties that are taught to most people growing up, qualaties needed to co exist.
And again to your comment of 'Chavs' i know first hand many highley religios 'Chavs' it seems their beleifs did not help at all with their cultural issues and social standing!
Yes i know religious text teach good morals but so does every other aspect of life, Parents, grand parents and teachers.
It is as most people have also stated not right how so many people have so much power over people that beleive...These teachers of god, no matter what religion we speak of are narrow minded. To read any religious text from decades ago and take it as pure gospel (that is as written is true) is truley ridiculas.

Again purley my opinions here, i am not in any way slandering what people believe nor is it my intention to insult anyone. =)
 
One day people will wake up and think this

You say this because you are safe and sound in a society which has formed out of religion. Religion (specifically Christianity) is a key part of the make up history as a country and where it has got us,

Religion DOES keep people in check, just as much as it can give creedance for atrocities.


If there was no such thing as religion, I don't think our moral code would be as strong.
 
If there was no such thing as religion, I don't think our moral code would be as strong.

I am not so sure on that one to be honest. At the end of the day the basic morality against stealing, lying, killing etc is what is needed to actually create a working civilisation, it is quite possible (and I would say probable) that it would have come along anyway as people learned they needed to act in that way to get along. Such a system could then have developed without some of the more religion specific morality that still causes us issues today.
 
If there was no such thing as religion, I don't think our moral code would be as strong.
Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish. An anecdotal, unfounded argument adopted by defenders of institutionalised 'religion'.

The human race evolved the ability to be civilised and live socially. We evolved the ability to have 'morals' on a number of levels. We thank nature for that, not religion.
 
I am not so sure on that one to be honest. At the end of the day the basic morality against stealing, lying, killing etc is what is needed to actually create a working civilisation, it is quite possible (and I would say probable) that it would have come along anyway as people learned they needed to act in that way to get along. Such a system could then have developed without some of the more religion specific morality that still causes us issues today.

I personally think that the moral code that we all have in us today (whether religious or not) is simply because of the product of a society which has been influenced to a large degree.

Rules are a lot easier to break when there are no "moral" consequences, hence punishments would have to rule, and a society based on punishment isn't going to go that far....
 
I am not so sure on that one to be honest. At the end of the day the basic morality against stealing, lying, killing etc is what is needed to actually create a working civilisation, it is quite possible (and I would say probable) that it would have come along anyway as people learned they needed to act in that way to get along. Such a system could then have developed without some of the more religion specific morality that still causes us issues today.

Basic morality needed a mechanism in which to operate, the mechanism manifested itself as religion. The other aspects of religious practice either good or bad came out of our own need to rail against those basic moral codes.

As civilisation became more ingrained in our psyche, the role of religion in teaching and enforcing these codes became less dominant and now with universal education, especially in the developed world, the worse aspects of religion have become a topic of debate and by doing so we question ourselves and the way in which we as the human race really see ourselves.

Humanity in it's social need has had to contain its more violent nature, Religion was one form of that control, and as can be seen in history in a very inefficient way.
 
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I personally think that the moral code that we all have in us today (whether religious or not) is simply because of the product of a society which has been influenced to a large degree.

Of course it is, but how much of that would have developed without religion is hard to say.

Rules are a lot easier to break when there are no "moral" consequences, hence punishments would have to rule, and a society based on punishment isn't going to go that far....

Surely you are contradicting yourself here? A society with a moral code based on religion is all about punishment, do good or burn in hell for eternity.
 
religeon/religeous control "died" with modern economics and polotics, the west kept up with it but the middle east didnt catch the ride until years after. They still live with a medievil set of rules and punishments.
 
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