#MeToo - is it just different for men and women?

jpaul said:
If you believe Trump is in control of what comes out of his mouth, then the remark trivialises/demeans the position she has held,
(as ever), he was unable to come up with specific details about her contribution, and this fell out of his mouth,
those words were immediately what caught me when I heard the speech.

saying that heard Penny Mordant this evening being evasive about checkers support, and I thought, did May feel obliged to promote her to fulfill a femail minister quota.
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Conservatives dont do quotas on gender that's labour.


As for the US ambassador seems she just wants to go back to private industry for the kids college tuition and trump is happy to have her back should she ever change her mind

"We're all happy for you in one way, but we hate to lose -- hopefully you'll be coming back at some point but in a different capacity. You can have your pick," Trump said as Haley smiled broadly.
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Yup. Definitely sexist and oppressive. Saying he's sorry to lose her and she's welcome back anytime in a role of her choosing.

Trump says many stupid things but this really isn't one of them.
 
Tefal said:
Conservatives dont do quotas on gender that's labour.
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I always have a little chuckle to myself when Labour start trying to fill quotas while the Conservatives have already had two female prime ministers without needing quotas.
 
Hades said:
I always have a little chuckle to myself when Labour start trying to fill quotas while the Conservatives have already had two female prime ministers without needing quotas.
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Tbh it explains the female Labour politicians.

ANYONE who takes a job that they knowingly got purely because of thier gender is gonna be **** at it.

They have no sense of pride or self respect. Anyone decent will turn it down so you're left with the dross like Abbot, who then poisons the well as she makes all women look bad. Meaning less get hired based on merit because of negative opinions of them and the only ones comming in are the **** quota ones
 
Looking a lot better for good old Harvey now the main case against him has folded like a pack of cards without even going to trial :) That Brafman is hot!

"The fallen mogul’s more upbeat demeanour suited the outcome of the day. Judge James Burke dismissed one of the six counts against him after the Manhattan D.A. agreed to drop it, and also pushed a key ruling to December, giving the defence more time to fight the charges.

The ditched sexual assault count stemmed from allegations by Lucia Evans, who told the New Yorker a year ago that Weinstein forced her to perform oral sex in his office in 2004. At the time, Evans was a 21-year-old student and aspiring actress.




Weinstein’s legal team will have until November 16 to file further motions attacking the remaining charges against him. The judge called a hearing for December 20, when he is expected to rule on those motions, meaning the flagship trial of the #MeToo era will not see serious courtroom action until well into 2019, if indeed it does proceed to trial.

Weinstein’s lawyer Benjamin Brafman maintained the jettisoned count is a sign the entire case is built on a weak foundation, one he and the legal team intend to spend the next several weeks undermining. “Some of the most vocal, outspoken critics of Mr. Weinstein have put their opinions into the media” without a legitimate legal claim, he argued. Although Brafman said he has “great respect” for the D.A.’s office, “I have deep regret that the thoroughness of the investigation did not prevent them from charging Mr. Weinstein with a crime he did not commit.”
 
Good Jewish director, making a robust defence against almost certainly many specious accusations by bimbos donkey's years after the alleged "assaults". I feel very sorry for a lot of these men who are now put in life changing predicaments due to a sudden surge in claimed morality by the once immoral, who have jumped upon a bandwagon with no care as to the changing mores since time long passed. I wish him well, and hope he gives them some grief in court. When there are umpteen photographs of claimants draped around Harvey's bull like neck long after the alleged assaults, smiling coquettishly it begs the question why did they continue to paw him and socialise with him after such "terrible experiences"?
 
Chris Wilson said:
Good Jewish director, making a robust defence against almost certainly many specious accusations by bimbos donkey's years after the alleged "assaults". I feel very sorry for a lot of these men who are now put in life changing predicaments due to a sudden surge in claimed morality by the once immoral, who have jumped upon a bandwagon with no care as to the changing mores since time long passed. I wish him well, and hope he gives them some grief in court. When there are umpteen photographs of claimants draped around Harvey's bull like neck long after the alleged assaults, smiling coquettishly it begs the question why did they continue to paw him and socialise with him after such "terrible experiences"?
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Because not doing so would have been career suicide?

Also, "bull like neck?" you have clearly seen photographs of the man I've not been privy to, and I worry your admiration of Harvey is slipping from "I wish I was him" to "I wish I was with him". I say worry because he has a reputation for being a bit handsy and I fear for your reputation as a flower of unimpeachable virtue, stay strong Pamela.

And for the record he's a producer and financier rather than a director.
 
Career suicide = I will prostitute my body for money and fame, setting aside any morality concerns for perceived glamour and the possible furtherance of a tacky career, in many of these cases. Then years later a trend has them join the sisterhood in suddenly claiming to having had their lives ruined by something they managed to happily conceal and put aside for decades, if indeed it bothered them or occurred at all.
 
Some footage of Harvey - woman turns up for a meeting with a marketing team but instead gets the fat slob himself, who locks the door and is totally inappropriate/creepy during the meeting.


Granted she's not really helping things with the flirting, like he asks if it is OK to flirt and she says "a little bit" etc.. and then she flirts too, not that that should excuse whatever happened later on(allegedly).
 
Wonder who this is....

A "leading businessman" has won a legal battle to stop a newspaper printing harassment claims against him.

Three Court of Appeal judges granted an injunction to stop the Daily Telegraph publishing its article.

The judges say the five staff making the claims had been "compromised by settlement agreements" and had received "substantial" payouts to stay silent.

The paper said it spent eight months investigating allegations of bullying, intimidation and sexual harassment made against the businessman.

It said publishing the allegations would "be sure to reignite the #MeToo movement against the mistreatment of women, minorities and others by powerful employers".

But after the accused boss was contacted for comment by the paper in July, he and a number of his senior staff applied for an injunction to stop the details being published.

'Breach of confidence'
In August, a High Court judge refused to grant the gagging order.

Mr Justice Haddon-Cave said the information was "clearly capable of significantly contributing to a debate in a democratic society" and "making a contribution to a current debate of general public interest on misconduct in the workplace".

But the executive and his managers appealed the decision, saying details of the allegations had been "disclosed in breach of confidence" as the five staff had signed NDAs.

On Tuesday, the Appeal Court judges - Sir Terence Etherton, Lord Justice Underhill and Lord Justice Henderson - published a ruling in the businessman's favour.

It mentioned allegations of "discreditable conduct", but said the paper was aware of NDAs signed by the accusers, in which they agreed to keep the details "confidential".
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45964165
 
Slightly off the current direction of this topic, I was watching Peter Kay's comedy shuffle earlier this week. One clip showed him clambering over the railing back onto the stage after having been messing around with the audience. A number of women in the front row made a grab for his backside, with one having two attempts before she actually managed to 'cop a feel'. Peter of course took no notice, but I wonder why the BBC was okay with showing this group sexual assault on one of our finest entertainers?
 
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A number of women in the front row made a grab for his backside, with one having two attempts before she actually managed to 'cop a feel'. Peter of course took no notice, but I wonder why was the BBC was okay with showing this group sexual assault on one of our finest entertainers?
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Because there are inherent double standards about this stuff... the average bloke likely doesn't care at all about someone grabbing his arse.

There is still the notion that women are fragile and need to be protected, which is in some contexts seen as a rather mysogynistic position to take but in other situations is welcomed.
 
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