*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***
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Update on Recall security and privacy architecture
Overview As AI becomes more integral to Windows, Microsoft is doing more with AI on the edge with the power of a 40+ TOPS Neural Processing Unit on Copilot+ PCs. This enables lower latency, better battery life for AI intense tasks, use of AI
blogs.windows.com
TLDR: it's opt-in
While MS could be lying, I'm not going to take the word of some random utuber either. I'll just wait and see. I'm dual booting so can nuke 11 at any point.
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The first part of that says principle number 1 is: "the user is always in control", I wonder how that tallies with automatically uploading your files to OneDrive and ignoring your preferences to randomly reenable things whenever MS feels like it?Update on Recall security and privacy architecture
Overview As AI becomes more integral to Windows, Microsoft is doing more with AI on the edge with the power of a 40+ TOPS Neural Processing Unit on Copilot+ PCs. This enables lower latency, better battery life for AI intense tasks, use of AI
TLDR: it's opt-in
While MS could be lying, I'm not going to take the word of some random utuber either. I'll just wait and see. I'm dual booting so can nuke 11 at any point.
Unrelated aside, I booted up after the update and Microsoft changed my background to "Windows spotlight". I know that's not a privacy issue, but they are no different with any feature and with AI, they have a massive financial incentive to copy all of your data and record your usage.
Soldato
If they cared about privacy they'd delete recall, or not have made it in the first place.
The fact that they're going to all this effort to make a feature nobody asked for proves they are trying to push it on people one way or another.
The fact that they're going to all this effort to make a feature nobody asked for proves they are trying to push it on people one way or another.
So much for Recall not being implemented in to normal PCs.
Going by this Recall was meant to be only in AI\ARM systems that had the recall\AI Chips
Glad I do not have 24H2 installed now or just remove Recall and use the old style explorer which I am happy to do
Going by this Recall was meant to be only in AI\ARM systems that had the recall\AI Chips
Glad I do not have 24H2 installed now or just remove Recall and use the old style explorer which I am happy to do
They pulled the it would only work on AI PC's, now its opt in and the video above now says its intrgrated in file explorer so expect it to be enabled by default soon or an Windows update/setting will accidentally turn this on.
Like their latest/new verson of Edge is integrated into Windows as it cannont be removed offically and removing it via other means causes a number of issues I guessing recall will follow the same path.
Like their latest/new verson of Edge is integrated into Windows as it cannont be removed offically and removing it via other means causes a number of issues I guessing recall will follow the same path.
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I must be dumb, but I don't understand why recall has to be integrated into file explorer, doesn't it just take screenshots? It seems pretty sinister that it is embedding itself into the OS like this, like a spyware that even if you flip the switch is still operating and you have to take it on trust that there's nothing sinister at the other end.
Man of Honour
Windows 11 24H2 issue creates undeletable 8.63 GB Windows update cache
Windows 11 24H2 is doing well with fewer issues than previous updates. However, there's an 8.63GB update cache issue.
www.windowslatest.com
I see the 8.63GB in both areas too. MS are fixing it for the next update.
Not sure that's just a Windows 11 thing as i noticed, after running my usual disk cleanup after patch Tue, that there's also 304MB of updates on Windows 10 that are undeletable.Windows 11 24H2 issue creates undeletable 8.63 GB Windows update cache
Windows 11 24H2 is doing well with fewer issues than previous updates. However, there's an 8.63GB update cache issue.www.windowslatest.com
I see the 8.63GB in both areas too. MS are fixing it for the next update.
Maybe it's just me though?
e: So i think i worked out what they did, from what i can tell they didn't mark some of the files in the SXS folder as superseded because running...
Code:
Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBaseYou may not want to run that command however as it makes it impossible to uninstall any updates that were installed in the past because it deletes the backed up files.
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One of my acquaintances said where he works they are getting loads of customers returning systems the last few weeks due to Windows 11 getting stuck at the "Let's connect you to a network" screen on first run, even on pre-built systems, where it can't load the network driver or connect to WiFi and the average consumer doesn't know enough to fix or bypass it. They are getting quite fed up with it.
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Using the F10 route takes about a minute to do and such a quick workaround, but like you said people who buy new PCs etc are not going to be aware of this and causes everyone a headache.
Doing this many times will soon add up on the total time to "fix" an issue which is not their problem.
Soldato
Your acquaintances at work and everybody who worked at technical support must be felt ashamed of themselves. There was absolutely no need to returned systems, I felt awful for these poor customers paid expensive £50 delivery with cover for systems valued £1000, £100 delivery with cover for systems valued £2000 and £250 delivery with cover for systems valued £3000 could contained RTX 4090 etc. Your acquaintances at technical support should gave customers very simple correct advice to fix Windows 11 getting stuck at the "Let's connect you to a network" screen issue with 3 methods.
Fix 1: Press Shift and F10 or Shift, FN and F10 or Shift, Ctrl and F3 or Windows key and R to open command prompt. Type in taskmgr and press enter, task manager window will open, click on Network Connection Flow and right click to end task it.
Fix 2: Press Shift and F10 or Shift, FN and F10 or Shift, Ctrl and F3 or Windows key and R to open command prompt. Type in OOBE\BYPASSNRO and press enter.
Fix 3: Press Shift and F10 or Shift, FN and F10 or Shift, Ctrl and F3 or Windows key and R to open command prompt. Type in cd C:\Windows\System32\oobe and press enter. Then type in OOBE\BYPASSNRO and press enter.
Average customers like me should know how to use a mobile phone and google it or use youtube to find solutions for Windows 11, Android and Samsung Galaxy S24 issues.
I had experienced issue with my Samsung Galaxy S24 after bought it and set it up but after transferred all data from S21 to S24 completed with Samsung Smart Switch app, found my S24 did not changed home wallpaper correctly and it did not installed all apps. I googled it found all S24 owners had same issues so I tried all solutions with wireless and USB cable but it didnt worked, Samsung technical support was not helpful so I had to reinstalled all apps. Never had issue with old Samsung Galaxy S9 transferred all data to S21 with Samsung Smart Switch years ago, maybe Samsung Smart Switch got a bug.
They work for a high street retailer - I suspect a lot of customers don't want the hassle and expect it to just work. I can't say for sure but telling the customer to bypass enrollment is probably against policy as well given my previous experience in working technical support in this kind of environment where you are only allowed to do things by the book.
Yeah it is just giving them a lot of extra work to do, but as above given my previous experience I suspect they aren't allowed to tell customers to use the F10 route - in general retail you either fix things so the standard out of the box experience works or refund/replace.
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Don
Somewhat missing the point that none of these should be necessary.
If I'm now expected to have to Google random issues during Windows setup, then I may as well be using Linux
Soldato
Microsoft with a market cap of 3 trillion dollars: Use Google or Youtube to fix your problem because we can't.
I mean, they could at least use Bing and stay on brand...
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It's definitely here to stay,it's the future they'll be able to collect and determine so much better targeted ads and what people look at using Ai.I hope AI is a bubble and it pops soon (probably not though).
Ai is the future of gaming also, can forget actual level designers for games it'll all be generated ai maps, Christ there's even a new game out right now that absolutely screams made by ai.
Hate to imagine what artificial limitations M$ will implement into future windows so that it will only run on CPU's that have an Ai engine of some sort.
Soldato
Windows 11 update turn of SMB again?
Don
I best start looking for an alternative to TCP/IP