Military coup in Turkey?

I fear if this is a failed secular rise, then Turkey is going to go hard conservative Islam as Erdogan can justify it with a weak "enemy" as such.
 
I agree that's exactly what will happen. He'll decimate the Army's influence, bye bye any semblance of democracy.

Not sure how over it is..

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A cobra helicopter just fired at the parliament #Turkey

And now he's giving a press conference. Blaming it on the Gülenist's according to translations..
 
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Indeed, looks like they were positioned to try to take down the Islamist, and reports are very conflicting iver what level of support and resolve they might have.
If they fail, it won't help.
 
Assuming it was instigated by lower level of the military it puts those of higher ranks in a very awkward position to say the least. The aftermath of this has the potential to be game changing for Turkey, the region and the world.
 
r44b said:
Assuming it was instigated by lower level of the military it puts those of higher ranks in a very awkward position to say the least. The aftermath of this has the potential to be game changing for Turkey, the region and the world.
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Looks like it was instigated by a recently dismissed colonel and those loyal to him - likely with some encouragement from certain parties abroad. As far as I can make out looks like 2/3rds of those soldiers have given up with only about 20-30 left active.
 
Continues to blame his political enemy instead of doing something intelligent, how very predictable.

Seems the Airforce is cleaning up Ankara now.
 
that is rather unfortunate... if it is just some lower ranking officers involved then that might explain the rather poor decision making like not capturing/arresting Erdogan as part of the plan

ideally a coup like this ought to be over swiftly without need for much bloodshed
 
Western leaders are very wrong to back Erdogan tonight, he will take this as acceptance of his draconian actions against his own country (particularly the secular media). That's not to say that the coup orchestrators are in the right, but Erdogan's government are most certainly not good guys here.
 
PhysicsMan94 said:
Western leaders are very wrong to back Erdogan tonight, he will take this as acceptance of his draconian actions against his own country (particularly the secular media). That's not to say that the coup orchestrators are in the right, but Erdogan's government are most certainly not good guys here.
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The people of Turkey need to stand up themselves if they want change and it very much seems that no-one wants a military coup to be the way for that change to take place.

It's up to Political leaders to show an alternative to Erdogan's regime and for a democratic resolution.
 
PhysicsMan94 said:
Western leaders are very wrong to back Erdogan tonight, he will take this as acceptance of his draconian actions against his own country (particularly the secular media). That's not to say that the coup orchestrators are in the right, but Erdogan's government are most certainly not good guys here.
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European leaders will do anything to keep the status quo with Turkey and reduce their dependency on Russian gas.
 
dowie said:
that is rather unfortunate... if it is just some lower ranking officers involved then that might explain the rather poor decision making like not capturing/arresting Erdogan as part of the plan

ideally a coup like this ought to be over swiftly without need for much bloodshed
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Think they were betting on wider support - early on they had isolated much of the government and taking control of much of the administration infrastructure it only really fell apart due to relatively widespread pro-Erdogan and lacklustre response from those anti-Erdogan.
 
PhysicsMan94 said:
Western leaders are very wrong to back Erdogan tonight, he will take this as acceptance of his draconian actions against his own country (particularly the secular media). That's not to say that the coup orchestrators are in the right, but Erdogan's government are most certainly not good guys here.
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What do you expect these so called Western leaders to do? They're bending over backwards as it is to Erdogan. He has the EU cowering to his wills, he's playing a political game with them.

EU needs him more than he needs them with the borders around Turkey being in a total mess.
 
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