Monaco Grand Prix 2010, Monte Carlo - Race 6/19

Enjoyed the first and last laps, the middle was a little boring if I'm honest. Shame about MS getting a penalty, don't think he deserved it. The Brawn and Schumacher combination is picking up where it left off! :D
 
absolute rubbish. Why wave green flags and show green lights and have a rule that you can overtake after a white line and then penalise someone for it?
 
You have to say though, in a sport where tenths and even hundreths of a second can make the difference in how many points you get, where your grid position is, and whether you make it to the podium, that minutia of detail is likewise reflected in the tiny details of the small print, so I guess they have to be strict. Having said that, I still think it's poor show.
 
imo dispite the rule, someone decided to turn everything green (flags/lights) so the commentry team where under the impression it was a race to the finish, everyone in the pits did and by the looks of things all the drivers thought the same. Everyone of them floored it to the finish. I'm not MS's biggest fan but come on FIA, it ain't his fault!

And to top it off, the day before Massa gets away with blocking JB. What a joke.
 
alexhull24 said:
The pass was legitimate. The mistake lies with the FIA bringing the safety car in with lights off and green flags. I would expect that in a situation where the race finishes under safety car, the lights should remain on, and yellow flags with SC boards should be displayed to the finish line, despite the car pulling into the pits.

The case here was that the race was technically resumed, and so due to the new rules this year, the pass was legitimate.

You have to admire the tact of Schumacher, he's ultra competitive and has his brain engaged even at the very end. I know a lot of people don't like him, but you still have to admire how well he knows this game. He never fails to impress me and cause controversy at the same time!

What I don't dispute is that the pass is almost against the spirit of the rules. I'm not sure how much weight that carries, but rules are there to be pushed and bent, that's for sure.

I think this is the wrong decision. I’d be interested to know on what grounds this is based, as my interpretation (a literal interpretation) would say the pass was legitimate.
At worst they should have swapped the places back, not a 20sec penalty. It was the race directors fault for bringing in the car and not finishing under SC, I don’t know why Schumacher is punished for that. He drove a solid race and doesn’t deserve to be demoted to 12th. Harsh, I wonder how much Damon Hill had to do with the decision.

My respect for the race stewards (who've been pretty good this year) is now lost. I can understand ruling against, but such a harsh penalty was unnecessary.
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The pass would have been legitimate if they had been racing, but they weren't. The rules state (article 40.13 as shown above) that if the final lap starts under the safety car it will come in at the end of the lap and the cars will proceed to the finish line in their current order. It's actually simple and clear. So Ross Brawn didn't know the rules, whos fault is that?
 
Alibaba99 said:
The pass would have been legitimate if they had been racing, but they weren't. The rules state (article 40.13 as shown above) that if the final lap starts under the safety car it will come in at the end of the lap and the cars will proceed to the finish line in their current order. It's actually simple and clear. So Ross Brawn didn't know the rules, whos fault is that?
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Do the rules also state that when the race is under safety car control there should be green flashing lights?
 
clv101 said:
See 1:09 of this video though:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8685542.stm

Green flashing light but waved yellow flags.
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surely charlie controls all the lights? he shouldnt have alowed them to be green if racing isnt alowed.

what next blue flags dont actually mean yield? black flacks dont mean your out oh is that the chequered flag? wait lets continue racing because no one can be sure they are suposed to mean what colour they are
 
So they can't actually reverse the penalty if the appeal is successful then?

Well that's a complete ****ing joke then isn't it :mad:
 
Alibaba99 said:
The pass would have been legitimate if they had been racing, but they weren't. The rules state (article 40.13 as shown above) that if the final lap starts under the safety car it will come in at the end of the lap and the cars will proceed to the finish line in their current order. It's actually simple and clear. So Ross Brawn didn't know the rules, whos fault is that?
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40.13 was written for the old safteycar procedure where there was no passing before the start finish line.
 
btw if the ruling doesnt get overturned the next time it happens whoever is leading should crawl along at 1mph to show how ridiculous it is
 
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