Monaco Grand Prix 2010, Monte Carlo - Race 6/19

It seems race control screwed up and the actual status of the last few hundred yards of the grand prix wasn't managed by the book. Is there a date set for the appeal?
 
Sorry but for the most part I cannot stand Schumacher, in fact I was one of his biggest critics last time round, BUT even I can see that this decision today was completely wrong and that Michael himself did nothing wrong.
 
I hope Barichello gets a fine or something for his toy out of pram moment, as it turned out to be quite dangerous -

Chandhok also revealed that he dragged Barrichello's errant steering wheel all the way down to the tunnel section of the track.

"It got lodged underneath the car, so I could feel it scraping all the way through Mirabeau. Then the noise stopped and one of the marshals reported back that it fell out of my car in the tunnel. But then Bruno ran over it – so that steering wheel has been well and truly Hispania'd!"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83688
 
To try and put some sense into a thread (once again) going wildly out of control, can I suggest that the issue here is the rules, which are badly written and contradictory, are the bigger problem, rather than the penalty or who it was involved etc.

As far as I was concerned we had 4 (or was it 3) SC periods, all of which ended in the same way with the safety car line dictating when you can overtake. But then some forgotten rule that probubly shouldnt be there poked its head up and confused things. Why should a safety car period be different if its the last lap to any other lap?

However, if the rules stand, then MS should be penalised. I think he should just have his places swapped back, but thats not my say. However, what the FIA should do, it hold their hands up, admit the rule was out dated and should have been removed/reworded, and let the result as it stands and republished the revised rules.

We shall see. Whens the court date?
 
Do me a favour. Watch a replay of the move again, and then tell me how you get to "downright dangerous" from it. Because I just don't see it.

Alonso wouldn't have expected him to be where he was and do what he did. Massa was told to hold station when the safety car pulled in therefore it's reasonable to expect Alonso was told the same. Pile up at the last corner with 13 odd cars all travelling close together is not good.
 
I've always been under the impression that they couldn't pass until after the line not before.

After the Safety Car line not the Start/Finish line, which is what he did. But the query is over wording in the ruling that goes against the whole thing. Bit of a mess.

The SC should have just stayed out.
 
Tweet from rubens about the steering wheel incident

rubarrichello

I throw the steering cause wanted to get out as soon as possible.After the shunt I was facing the wrong side of the track andcar was on fire

not sure that justifies the way he through it out, plus I don't recall him jumping out that quickly if the car was on fire.
 
Alonso wouldn't have expected him to be where he was and do what he did.

Alonso was quite obviously expecting something given the way he nailed the throttle out of La Rascasse. You can't tell me that Alonso, a two-time World Champion and top flight driver for many years, didn't think there was a possibility with the safety car having pulled in that Michael Schumacher of all people might try a move on him after they got past the safety car line? If your opinion of Alonso is that low....meh.

Ferrari screwed up. Whether they misread the rules, or read the situation wrong, they screwed up. I'd hope that any appeal which involves someone who isn't bat-**** insane on the judging side will find that Schumacher was perfectly within his rights to make that move.
 
Changed this year, hence the white safety car line on the track just after the pit entry.

Was just talking to a mate who pointed that out - I missed the very end of the race so didn't hear DC mention the rule change.

Got to say having watched the in car of MS IMHO it looked like a fair pass - **just read the the article properly and seen the rule**

As for Rubens reason for lobbing the wheel - I had a feeling it would be out of a need to exit the car but still, slap him E20K for his troubles :)
 
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To try and put some sense into a thread (once again) going wildly out of control, can I suggest that the issue here is the rules, which are badly written and contradictory, are the bigger problem, rather than the penalty or who it was involved etc.

As far as I was concerned we had 4 (or was it 3) SC periods, all of which ended in the same way with the safety car line dictating when you can overtake. But then some forgotten rule that probubly shouldnt be there poked its head up and confused things. Why should a safety car period be different if its the last lap to any other lap?

However, if the rules stand, then MS should be penalised. I think he should just have his places swapped back, but thats not my say. However, what the FIA should do, it hold their hands up, admit the rule was out dated and should have been removed/reworded, and let the result as it stands and republished the revised rules.

We shall see. Whens the court date?
Totally agree, we have some conflicting rules that have caused confusion and they need to fix them.
 
Alonso was quite obviously expecting something given the way he nailed the throttle out of La Rascasse. You can't tell me that Alonso, a two-time World Champion and top flight driver for many years, didn't think there was a possibility with the safety car having pulled in that Michael Schumacher of all people might try a move on him after they got past the safety car line? If your opinion of Alonso is that low....meh.

Ferrari screwed up. Whether they misread the rules, or read the situation wrong, they screwed up. I'd hope that any appeal which involves someone who isn't bat-**** insane on the judging side will find that Schumacher was perfectly within his rights to make that move.

I put the slide down to cold tyres and frustration at being bottled up behind the safety car. Who when given an F1 Ferrari can resist pressing the loud pedal when given the opportunity. :D
 
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