Monaco Grand Prix 2011, Monte-Carlo - Race 6/19

smr · 30 May 2011 at 12:58

NathanE said:
I like this new dark side of Hamilton. It's great. He's hardly any different to how Senna was, though Senna did have a better way with words

Really? I have an unbiased opinion of him but he just strikes me as a petulant, immature child with these outbursts at everyone around him and NEVER himself.

The boy needs to grow into a man and accept some responsibility or he'll never get anywhere as close to the greatness of Schumacher or Senna ... part of the reason why Schumi was / is so great is the way he envelopes people around him from within the garage, yet all Hamilton seems to do is push people away.

If I was his mechanic I'd think **** it, why put all my efforts into building him a decent car if that's how he's gonna act.

Glaucus · 30 May 2011 at 12:59

smr said:
Really? I have an unbiased opinion of him but he just strikes me as a petulant, immature child with these outbursts at everyone around him and NEVER himself.

The boy needs to grow into a man and accept some responsibility or he'll never get anywhere as close to the greatness of Schumacher or Senna ... part of the reason why Schumi was / is so great is the way he envelopes people around him from within the garage, yet all Hamilton seems to do is push people away.

If I was his mechanic I'd think **** it, why put all my efforts into building him a decent car if that's how he's gonna act.

Nearly all to drivers have been like that. It's part and parcel of being a top driver.

Jono8 · 30 May 2011 at 13:01

Dutch Guy said:
I wasn't totally wrong when I wrote this on the 27th, just a shame german finger boy managed to win again

Mostly wrong though :confused:

Neither of the things you predicted to happen happened!?

Hxc · 30 May 2011 at 13:01

Some of the Hamilton fanboyism on here and other forums is legendary. He can do no wrong to some people ahaa.

Glaucus · 30 May 2011 at 13:04

Hxc said:
Some of the Hamilton fanboyism on here and other forums is legendary. He can do no wrong to some people ahaa.

If that was aimed at me, I've been annoyed with him in the past and find it annoying. However look at how top drivers are , they are all the same. Senna rants, MSC crashes, there was a good documentary on Graham hill at the start of the season with his abussive relationship with mechanics,

Hxc · 30 May 2011 at 13:06

No, no, it wasn't aimed at you at all!

dannyjo22 · 30 May 2011 at 13:21

smr said:
The boy needs to grow into a man and accept some responsibility or he'll never get anywhere as close to the greatness of Schumacher or Senna ... part of the reason why Schumi was / is so great is the way he envelopes people around him from within the garage, yet all Hamilton seems to do is push people away..

Exactly. Senna and Msc used to rant as does alonso but you didn't continually hear them blame the team.

Atleast this time Dave Ryan doesn't have to take the blame for Hamiltons gob.

He wins and he downloads all thr PR guff about being in the best team, he has something go wrong and he's on the radio asking which idiot made the call.

Mclaren should shoulder a lot of blame for how hamilton is for leading him around by the knob for all his career. A change of scenary might do him the world of good.

3dcandy · 30 May 2011 at 13:41

dannyjo22 said:
Exactly. Senna and Msc used to rant as does alonso but you didn't continually hear them blame the team.

Atleast this time Dave Ryan doesn't have to take the blame for Hamiltons gob.

He wins and he downloads all thr PR guff about being in the best team, he has something go wrong and he's on the radio asking which idiot made the call.

Mclaren should shoulder a lot of blame for how hamilton is for leading him around by the knob for all his career. A change of scenary might do him the world of good.

I've been saying this since Ham came on the scene...

deuse · 30 May 2011 at 14:08

dannyjo22 said:
Exactly. Senna and Msc used to rant as does alonso but you didn't continually hear them blame the team.

I can remember Senna taking a test in a F1 car for the first time and getting faster lap times
then their own drivers and then saying is was NOT a good enough car to win(which he was right)

MSC and Alonso played the politics game the same as prost did and when that did not work they then blamed the team or left.

CaptainRAVE · 30 May 2011 at 14:12

I can see Hamilton leaving McLaren if they don't up their game - they continue to make too many mistakes.

Given how useless Webber has been this year, a move to RB would not shock me.

Xelene · 30 May 2011 at 14:19

CaptainRAVE said:
I can see Hamilton leaving McLaren if they don't up their game - they continue to make too many mistakes.

Given how useless Webber has been this year, a move to RB would not shock me.

There isn't a positive move Hamilton can make to any other team, Vettel won't put up with him in a Red Bull and Alonso sure as hell won't have him in a Ferrari. What can he do? Take a vacant Renault seat if Kubica doesn't recover - hardly a positive move is it.

I do wonder who will get the second Red Bull seat when Webber retires, he doesn't have a contract for next year. Same thing with the second Ferrari seat - although maybe Kubica is a shoe in for that.

el_dazza · 30 May 2011 at 14:45

deuse said:
I can remember Senna taking a test in a F1 car for the first time and getting faster lap times
then their own drivers and then saying is was NOT a good enough car to win(which he was right)

Donington?

deuse · 30 May 2011 at 15:34

CaptainRAVE said:
I can see Hamilton leaving McLaren if they don't up their game - they continue to make too many mistakes.

Given how useless Webber has been this year, a move to RB would not shock me.

I would have said NOT A CHANCE a few weeks back but now I am not so sure.

el_dazza said:
Donington?

And he showed Mclaren how one should drive a F1 car.

Dunks · 30 May 2011 at 15:35

CaptainRAVE said:
I can see Hamilton leaving McLaren if they don't up their game - they continue to make too many mistakes.

Given how useless Webber has been this year, a move to RB would not shock me.

Where do you think he'll go? It's not going to be Red Bull or Ferrari, that's for sure.

knip · 30 May 2011 at 15:37

Did none of you buggers miss me then?

Just sat through it all recorded from yesterday, have I missed anything that happened afterwards, as my recording is just about to end, cos of the delay in the race.

Duke · 30 May 2011 at 15:39

Dunks said:
Where do you think he'll go? It's not going to be Red Bull or Ferrari, that's for sure.

Yep, he's got no where to go really.

Flibster · 30 May 2011 at 15:58

knip said:
Did none of you buggers miss me then?

Sorry? And you are? :confused:

knip said:
Just sat through it all recorded from yesterday, have I missed anything that happened afterwards, as my recording is just about to end, cos of the delay in the race.

Apart from a couple of highly dubious penalties, you missed Hamilton's great interview.

Also watch the F1 Forum on iplayer. They go to the Red Bull Floater Home. There may be some playing in the pool.

Kenai · 30 May 2011 at 15:59

Flibster said:
There may be some playing in the pool.

and then the program stops just after the first bikini clad women get in

Ceryndrion · 30 May 2011 at 16:02

knip said:
Did none of you buggers miss me then?

Just sat through it all recorded from yesterday, have I missed anything that happened afterwards, as my recording is just about to end, cos of the delay in the race.

We always miss you dear..

End of the race, no, you didn't really miss anything..
Forum should be up on iplayer, so you can watch EJ and DC getting dunked, and of course hamilton's "joke"..

Beyond that, no, you didn't miss much after the red flag.

CaptainRAVE · 30 May 2011 at 16:12

Dunks said:
Where do you think he'll go? It's not going to be Red Bull or Ferrari, that's for sure.

Thats the thing, I really have no idea, but it just seems to be getting more and more likely that he will end up *somewhere* else. That or he is going to walk from F1.