Monaco Grand Prix 2011, Monte-Carlo - Race 6/19

knip · 30 May 2011 at 16:21

Just started watching the forum. Is it me or is EJ drunk? :eek:

smr · 30 May 2011 at 16:30

knip said:
Just started watching the forum. Is it me or is EJ drunk?

Dunk I think is the word

knip · 30 May 2011 at 16:32

smr said:
Dunk I think is the word

I've not got that far yet! :eek:

Glaucus · 30 May 2011 at 16:43

Dunks said:
Where do you think he'll go? It's not going to be Red Bull or Ferrari, that's for sure.

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phil675 · 30 May 2011 at 16:44

omg his car is blik

knip · 30 May 2011 at 17:01

DC "No no no i've got my white jeans on!"

Kerming · 30 May 2011 at 17:44

Slam62 said:
If the FIA do ban the EBD by silverstone, I think it will be a game changer, JMO mind, the whole mystical Adrian Newey thing and the flexi wing all depends on the EBD,

IMO RB can run the car at a steeper rake because of the extreme use of the EBD, the front wing then runs closer to the ground for geometrical reasons, the aerodynamic load on the front wing probably increases with the inverse of ride height squared and hence the wing flexes and runs even closer to the ground.

The effect of the rake at the rear of the car is to create a larger volume defuser, normally this would stall due to insufficient air flow, however the addition of the engine exhaust flow at low torque demand, gives sufficient flow for the defuser to work. When going full throttle along a straight, the defuser stalls again and hence has low drag.

Basically the RB aero package collapses with no EBD. I reckon RB will struggle to get podiums if they do ban the EBD.

Agreed..........

CaptainRAVE · 30 May 2011 at 17:54

Slam62 said:
If the FIA do ban the EBD by silverstone, I think it will be a game changer, JMO mind, the whole mystical Adrian Newey thing and the flexi wing all depends on the EBD,

IMO RB can run the car at a steeper rake because of the extreme use of the EBD, the front wing then runs closer to the ground for geometrical reasons, the aerodynamic load on the front wing probably increases with the inverse of ride height squared and hence the wing flexes and runs even closer to the ground.

The effect of the rake at the rear of the car is to create a larger volume defuser, normally this would stall due to insufficient air flow, however the addition of the engine exhaust flow at low torque demand, gives sufficient flow for the defuser to work. When going full throttle along a straight, the defuser stalls again and hence has low drag.

Basically the RB aero package collapses with no EBD. I reckon RB will struggle to get podiums if they do ban the EBD.

Pretty much this, IF they ban it. I am not convinced they will follow through.

elmuzzy66. · 30 May 2011 at 17:59

Maybe they have set silverstone as a date to ban the mapping so that teams can sort out a plan B.

Abraxaz1 · 30 May 2011 at 18:18

elmuzzy66. said:
Maybe they have set silverstone as a date to ban the mapping so that teams can sort out a plan B.

Yes but will the season be done and dusted by then? thats the real question, will this ban come into force too late to make any real difference to the season.

3dcandy · 30 May 2011 at 18:19

CaptainRAVE said:
Thats the thing, I really have no idea, but it just seems to be getting more and more likely that he will end up *somewhere* else. That or he is going to walk from F1.

He's threatened to walk before...but I'd guess that Mclaren will "accommodate" him as they have before...

Xelene · 30 May 2011 at 18:33

That trick they have with the EBD is only good for qualifying tho, it doesn't seem to be something they can run in the race when the car isn't on fumes, the car is still quick.

TaKeN · 30 May 2011 at 18:43

'That Trick' sldsmkd is purely them running **** loads of fuel through that exhaust system to get the defuser working very very well.

Someone feel free to correct me!

NathanE · 30 May 2011 at 19:30

ins0mn1ac · 30 May 2011 at 19:31

Abraxaz1 said:
Yes but will the season be done and dusted by then? thats the real question, will this ban come into force too late to make any real difference to the season.

Heh just mirrors 2009 really, once teams caught up with the double d the season was pretty much rolled over by Button.

realscot · 30 May 2011 at 20:03

I don't know why, but i'm warming to hamilton. I just watched a bit of the forum where he's interviewed and comes out with his Ali G quote, and I must say I chuckled a few times though that interview. What he says may be provocative, or wrong, or even plain silly, but I like it. I'd much rather he talked like that, and was honest, rather than his usual butt kissing for the team blah blah that probably made me sick of him.
I've about had enough of this "i want to thank the team for doing a great job" etc, I want to hear what drivers really think, not these fake scripts that they seem to be following.
I am officially removing myself from the Hamilton hate club, although i'm by no means ready to join the fanboy club.

NathanE · 30 May 2011 at 20:14

I thought his interview was awesome and spot on. The other drivers, they ARE idiots. And I'm like his biggest fan.

Hamilton appears to have turned to the dark side. It's a totally viable way of life

CaptainRAVE · 30 May 2011 at 20:21

NathanE said:
I thought his interview was awesome and spot on. The other drivers, they ARE idiots. And I'm like his biggest fan.

Hamilton appears to have turned to the dark side. It's a totally viable way of life

This post made me smile

Xelene · 30 May 2011 at 20:24

TaKeN said:
'That Trick' sldsmkd is purely them running **** loads of fuel through that exhaust system to get the defuser working very very well.

Someone feel free to correct me!

Pretty much what the trick is, I should have quoted the good explanation by Slam62. What I was trying to say is that they can only do this "trick" in very limited circumstances - i.e.they need to burn a crap load of fuel, have the engine on a mapping that is completely unsuitable for normal race usage and be able to use the DRS anywhere on a lap. Without whatever it is they are doing, the car is still fast; but not the fastest.

FrankJH · 30 May 2011 at 20:38

RB totally lucked into that result imo , they would have been slaughtered in the last 5-8 laps without the red flag / new tyres.

Really think JB deserved the win yesterday - he slaughtered both Alonso and SV on every set of tyres, and got fastest lap after fastest lap (until MW on the last lap of the race)

I dont know why people are keen to criticize him when they say nothing about Alonso following SV for even longer without barely trying one attempt to overtake