GP2 doesn't have a red flag in the first corner
Think a piece of someones wing came off though.
Whole front wing wedged underneath Ellinas car.
Monaco Grand Prix 2014, Monte Carlo - Race 6/19
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Whole front wing wedged underneath Ellinas car.
Yes I over exaggerated, he didn't literally cry but he was obviously in a huff over the whole situation and is obviously of the opinion his team mate did it on purpose.
Well no one really, I just watch it for the fun and have no real bias towards anyone.
Well no one really, I just watch it for the fun and have no real bias towards anyone.
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Just watched another replay. Was it me, or was Rosberg on completely the wrong part of the track to turn in there? Nearly a cars width further across to the right than normal? That was way off the normal racing line.
Reversing was definitely dodgy, but it wasn't wide enough to spin it there so what else could he do other than sit there and let the car boil until everyone else is done? And the yellows would still have been there as if anyone had a brake failure, thats where they would have ended up.
When Hamilton went past, Rosberg was definitely close to being on the track. He was reversing at that point.
Going to be interesting to see what the Stewards actually cone out with.
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Just heard that Mercedes are postponing their press conference. Wonder why...
Reversing was definitely dodgy, but it wasn't wide enough to spin it there so what else could he do other than sit there and let the car boil until everyone else is done? And the yellows would still have been there as if anyone had a brake failure, thats where they would have ended up.
When Hamilton went past, Rosberg was definitely close to being on the track. He was reversing at that point.
Going to be interesting to see what the Stewards actually cone out with.
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Just heard that Mercedes are postponing their press conference. Wonder why...
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Riiiiiiight.
There is no Official FIA Steward Investigation into Rosberg.
There is an Unofficial FIA Steward Investigation to decide if they want to make it into an Official FIA Steward Investigation.
So it's being investigated, but not officially, but by the people who do the official investigations, and if they find anything suspect in the unofficial investigation they will make the unofficial investigation official and start officially investigating it.
Well, it took them 8 hours to decide on Schumachers 'oopsie' moment in Monaco, so there may be a bit of a wait.
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Typical! In the time it took me to type that, the unofficial investigation has turned official and Mercedes have been summoned to the Stewards.
There is no Official FIA Steward Investigation into Rosberg.
There is an Unofficial FIA Steward Investigation to decide if they want to make it into an Official FIA Steward Investigation.
So it's being investigated, but not officially, but by the people who do the official investigations, and if they find anything suspect in the unofficial investigation they will make the unofficial investigation official and start officially investigating it.
Well, it took them 8 hours to decide on Schumachers 'oopsie' moment in Monaco, so there may be a bit of a wait.
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Typical! In the time it took me to type that, the unofficial investigation has turned official and Mercedes have been summoned to the Stewards.
Man of Honour
Well if the stewards are making it official then they obviously have reason to believe it was intentional.
I'm not hoping for a penalty in a cynical sense, but I'm hoping they make an example against idiotic behaviour like reversing into the track when people are trying to do hot laps.
I'm not hoping for a penalty in a cynical sense, but I'm hoping they make an example against idiotic behaviour like reversing into the track when people are trying to do hot laps.
Here's a gif:
Notice that he has the car placed in the wrong part of the track and how much he wiggles the steering wheel before he even makes it to the breaking zone.
If you were trying to lock up a car in the safest, slowest, way possible it would look like Rosberg's move.
Soldato
Terrible quality, and will probably be removed by FOM in an hour or so, but here's the best one I could find:
Anyone watching the GP2 race? Choo choo! All aboard the Cecotto train! 4th place, 2 seconds slower than the leaders and holding up everyone back to 21st. 3laps to go. Just waiting for the carnage...
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Because free practice is free practice. No one wants to lose out on free practice time so no one cares if other people want to reverse out and cause one slow lap because lap times don't matter as much as getting multiple laps in.
As no one would want to lose 5 or 50 minutes because they weren't allowed to reverse out, it's not an issue. Likewise rejoining the track in a race, everyone would want that to happen, but there is something to gain for the people coming back on track, getting more laps in practice or finishing a race. Ruining other peoples final lap with NO chance to get another lap in, the person rejoining can only ruin everyone's qualifying and can't improve himself, there is no reason to come back on.
You don't get penalised in race for being slower than the car behind and holding them up, but you do in qualifying, rules are different in different situations.
Rosberg had no official, sensible reason for getting back on track and only downside for everyone else, he did have something to gain, but only by ruining everyone else's lap.
It may not be a technical rule but a unsportsmen like conduct rule, I don't know if F1 has such a rule where as say football can punish people for being intentionally *****.
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Same, waiting for him to run someone into the barrier.
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Riiiiiiight.
There is no Official FIA Steward Investigation into Rosberg.
There is an Unofficial FIA Steward Investigation to decide if they want to make it into an Official FIA Steward Investigation.
So it's being investigated, but not officially, but by the people who do the official investigations, and if they find anything suspect in the unofficial investigation they will make the unofficial investigation official and start officially investigating it.
Well, it took them 8 hours to decide on Schumachers 'oopsie' moment in Monaco, so there may be a bit of a wait.
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Typical! In the time it took me to type that, the unofficial investigation has turned official and Mercedes have been summoned to the Stewards.
Interesting, does that suggest they've decided there was something dodgy enough to warrant an official investigation in which case, it points more towards a penalty than no penalty?
It suggests they find the incident strange enough to warrant an investigation. It definitely makes a penalty much more likely. We will just have to wait and see.
Soldato
I'm gonna just park my bum on the fence here and say this ...
Even *if* Rosberg did do it on purpose then it's win win for Rosberg fans all round.
If he did it on purpose (which I don't think he did), then it means that he HAS got a ruthless side after all, and that bodes very very well indeed for the neutral fans, fans of Rosberg and F1 as a whole. We don't want to see a pushover in the title fight.
Out of all the drivers on the grid Lewis probably suffers more than anyother when things "get" to him, if someone gets under his skin then it can affect his performance negatively. He has shown this time after time.
This weekend will either be the weekend that brakes Hamilton or makes a true Champion out of him, and my word is it exciting now.
And of course the other win is that if Rosberg didn't do it on purpose then he still got in there early and set the fastest lap when it mattered (not that Hamilton could foresee the yellows) but it will rattle Hamilton's game plan going into Q3 forever.
If Rosberg wins the race tomorrow expect a very different rhythm of Q3 Qualifying from Hamilton... which may severely upset his rhythm, psyche, and ultimately his bid for the WDC.
Game on.
Even *if* Rosberg did do it on purpose then it's win win for Rosberg fans all round.
If he did it on purpose (which I don't think he did), then it means that he HAS got a ruthless side after all, and that bodes very very well indeed for the neutral fans, fans of Rosberg and F1 as a whole. We don't want to see a pushover in the title fight.
Out of all the drivers on the grid Lewis probably suffers more than anyother when things "get" to him, if someone gets under his skin then it can affect his performance negatively. He has shown this time after time.
This weekend will either be the weekend that brakes Hamilton or makes a true Champion out of him, and my word is it exciting now.
And of course the other win is that if Rosberg didn't do it on purpose then he still got in there early and set the fastest lap when it mattered (not that Hamilton could foresee the yellows) but it will rattle Hamilton's game plan going into Q3 forever.
If Rosberg wins the race tomorrow expect a very different rhythm of Q3 Qualifying from Hamilton... which may severely upset his rhythm, psyche, and ultimately his bid for the WDC.
Game on.
Soldato
I have seen from every angle on Reddit. Firstly he has the car on the complete wrong line, on every other lap he has the car placed out wide to cut into the apex.
He is turning his wheel waaaay before he even needs to for the corner, he's laying down rubber because he is trying to lockup. He comes out of the previous corner without issue, places the car in the wrong part of the track and then proceeds to wriggle his wheel for no reason.
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Here's a gif:
Notice that he has the car placed in the wrong part of the track and how much he wiggles the steering wheel before he even makes it to the breaking zone.
If you were trying to lock up a car in the safest, slowest, way possible it would look like Rosberg's move.
Yep, the rapid steering looks like an attempt to lock up, and although he's carrying too much speed into the corner why is he throwing the steering wheel all over the place whilst braking and so early into the corner whilst off the racing line? Doesn't fit with a mistake imo. The reversing afterwards just confirms it was an attempt to spoils other drivers' hot laps.
Soldato
I believe something is a bit dodgy on what Rosberg did there, as well as half of the paddock. Starting on poll at Monaco is great advantage to go on and win and he knows it, especially as Lewis was putting the pressure on, on that final lap.
Defo Looking forward to the race tomorrow now, weird that because Monaco usually bores the head off me.
Defo Looking forward to the race tomorrow now, weird that because Monaco usually bores the head off me.
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