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A CEO cheating on their wife is certainly seedy, and it has a lot of potential for abuse - which I assume is the actual accusation? - but from the limited screen shot of a dozen messages I've seen I don't see anything there that would damn Horner sufficiently that he couldn't hold on unless Red Bull's commercial partners decide that he's too damaging to their brand.
 
Having seen a sample of the alleged leaks...all I have to say is

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No wonder it went nowhere.
Also those images are blatantly fake as anything. There's one where Horner has literally been photoshopped in. :cry:
 
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Numerous CEO's have been fired for having consensual relationships with employees. If memory serves correctly the Mcdonald's CEO get fired a couple of years back for it ? That said there are probably plenty who don't get sacked. I guess it depends on how many enemies you have in the company.
 
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A CEO cheating on their wife is certainly seedy, and it has a lot of potential for abuse - which I assume is the actual accusation? - but from the limited screen shot of a dozen messages I've seen I don't see anything there that would damn Horner sufficiently that he couldn't hold on unless Red Bull's commercial partners decide that he's too damaging to their brand.
Would be nice if we kept to what we know instead of, at best, guesswork then being hypothetically judgemental about life..
 
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It's Scam, he has nothing better to do.


None of that matters. People like Scam etc made their minds up weeks ago. If he said nothing, he would look worse to them. If he refuted it, he would look worse to them. If he declined to comment, he would look worse to them. If it turned out to be tabloid BS, he would still look worse to them.

That's how most humans work. So CH can't win regardless, so I literally don't know why everyone on OCUK believes they're a PR specialist now.

He can win easily if he hasn't been naughty and the claims and leak are false.
 
Wild speculation or not.... Red Bull are usually fairly decisive in their actions as a company.

I think there is a good chance that Horner walks before he's pushed. Whatever the situation that has occurred or not, it's a very poor look for Red Bull.

I think he'll resign for the "good of the team" but "maintains his innocence" etc etc
 
As much as I dislike Horner, if he has been pushed here by the manufacturing of a situation deliberately to cause enough damage/doubt to make him go, then..... oh no wait.... I wouldn't care.... because he's a ****.
 
Wild speculation or not.... Red Bull are usually fairly decisive in their actions as a company.

I think there is a good chance that Horner walks before he's pushed. Whatever the situation that has occurred or not, it's a very poor look for Red Bull.

I think he'll resign for the "good of the team" but "maintains his innocence" etc etc

Ford are going to be pretty upset right now I think.
 
A CEO cheating on their wife is certainly seedy, and it has a lot of potential for abuse - which I assume is the actual accusation? - but from the limited screen shot of a dozen messages I've seen I don't see anything there that would damn Horner sufficiently that he couldn't hold on unless Red Bull's commercial partners decide that he's too damaging to their brand.

Yeah I assume the investigation was more to the accusation of coercive behaviour, etc - from those messages it seems to me it takes two to tango.
 
Numerous CEO's have been fired for having consensual relationships with employees. If memory serves correctly the Mcdonald's CEO get fired a couple of years back for it ? That said there are probably plenty who don't get sacked. I guess it depends on how many enemies you have in the company.
Only because it was written into his employment contract. He wasn't sacked for the relationship, he was sacked for breaching the terms of his employment contract, I'd also check your calendar it was 5 years ago.
 
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The damage here is that Red Bull investigated itself, and found no problem. For a team with Red Bull's already questionable history, that just adds fuel to the fire of a rotten and corrupt team. So it's not just about Horner, it's the damage to Red Bull itself deeming this as acceptable behaviour or at least behaviour that is not "bad enough" to warrant even a suspension during the investigation. This raises many questions about the integrity of Red Bull. It will scare sponsors I would think.
 
The damage here is that Red Bull investigated itself, and found no problem. For a team with Red Bull's already questionable history, that just adds fuel to the fire of a rotten and corrupt team. So it's not just about Horner, it's the damage to Red Bull itself deeming this as acceptable behaviour or at least behaviour that is not "bad enough" to warrant even a suspension during the investigation. This raises many questions about the integrity of Red Bull. It will scare sponsors I would think.

How many times do people need to be told that it was an independent investigation led by an external specialist barrister.
 
Cleared from controlling and coercive behaviour.
Sounds again like employee in question didnt like that promotions depend on results.

Strange how there is zero mention of any sexual harassment, considering others in here were convinced of sexual photos going about, zero mention of that in the actual press.
Chinese whispers coming up false, who would have thought....
That aged well.
 
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