Motorsport Off Topic Thread

[Moley]

I hope they have some solid grounds for doing that, or it's going to put them in a very bad light indeed.

Speculation: Maybe the KC who investigated the scandal determined that she wasn't entirely honest and therefore could be dismissed for Gross Misconduct or creating a hostile work environment?

 

[the wopster]

Interesting move from Red Bull.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1765713136072503340

I thought sources were reporting she was sacked

Edit: seems she wasn't sacked

https://twitter.com/x/status/1765440681609199693

Absolutely toxic team and people in charge, the messages have him bang to rights(I have read them) and they suspend his accuser

 

[Mesai]

Absolutely toxic team and people in charge, the messages have him bang to rights(I have read them) and they suspend his accuser

Assuming they were legit.

 

[KiNgPiN83]

“And In today’s installment of how to win fans by Red Bull.”

This is all wild. Is anyone actually in charge there right now?! Just seem to be stumbling from one mess to another…

 

[the wopster]

Assuming they were legit.

Oh they’re legit, either that or Horner has a twin brother

 

[Kenai]

Assuming they were legit.

You would expect by now that if they weren't, it would have been easier for Horner/Red Bull to at least say as much

 

[Mesai]

Oh they’re legit, either that or Horner has a twin brother

I mean if you worked the case and can legally provide us with details of said case, I'm all ears.

 

[Mesai]

You would expect by now that if they weren't, it would have been easier for Horner/Red Bull to at least say as much

Who knows, no comment is often better than any comment as it will always get taken out of context.

 

[booyaka]

The woman who accused team principal Christian Horner of inappropriate behaviour has been suspended by Red Bull.

Allegations of inappropriate and controlling behaviour had been made against the 50-year-old, which he denied.

After an internal investigation, Red Bull's board dismissed the complaint last week.

"The company cannot comment on this internal matter," a spokesperson said.

 

[cuke2u]

I mean if you worked the case and can legally provide us with details of said case, I'm all ears.

Quite, no one has any evidence that this Snapchat conversations even took place between these two parties. I thought Snapchat messages were encrypted anyway.

Seems like Horner's complainant has now been suspended.
Plot thickens and maybe we'll see Red Bull accusing this person of trying to blackmail Horner..

 

[Kenai]

Who knows, no comment is often better than any comment as it will always get taken out of context.

Less so when you've got people like Marko being quoted as saying he's surprised that "the documents have been leaked", even if it's a slightly selective quote. Things like that not being challenged or corrected add up piece by piece to the point where it seems rather unlikely it's going to turn out that they were all a complete fabrication imo.

 

[the wopster]

I mean if you worked the case and can legally provide us with details of said case, I'm all ears.

Ahh another Red Bull super Fan, who’s team and the toxic people in charge of the team can do no wrong.

 

[Kenai]

Quite, no one has any evidence that this Snapchat conversations even took place between these two parties. I thought Snapchat messages were encrypted anyway.

Whatsapp, not snapchat and whatsapp's end to end encryption doesn't prevent you screenshotting at either end of the conversation.

 

[Mesai]

Less so when you've got people like Marko being quoted as saying he's surprised that "the documents have been leaked", even if it's a slightly selective quote. Things like that not being challenged or corrected add up piece by piece to the point where it seems rather unlikely it's going to turn out that they were all a complete fabrication imo.

I'm definitely not saying it's impossible. The leak could be sabotage from someone else in corporate trying to undermine him, but it could equally be some photoshopped none-sense.

People are quick to witch hunt and call certainty purely on emotion, which is sad.

 

[bayo000]

I guess she's not appealed the decision last week as otherwise they wouldn't have been allowed to suspend her?

 

[Mesai]

Ahh another Red Bull super Fan, who’s team and the toxic people in charge of the team can do no wrong.

I'm not really a RB fan, although I have massive respect for how well rounded they are as a team, and how insanely good Max is as a driver.

You're clearly very emotional about the whole ordeal as opposed to factual.

 

[the wopster]

I'm not really a RB fan, although I have massive respect for how well rounded they are as a team, and how insanely good Max is as a driver.

You're clearly very emotional about the whole ordeal as opposed to factual.

I have seen the messages and the pictures, so am factual

 

[Mesai]

I have seen the messages and the pictures, so am factual

I saw a picture of a shark riding a unicorn - yet to see it in real life but fairly certain it exists.

 

[the wopster]

I saw a picture of a shark riding a unicorn - yet to see it in real life but fairly certain it exists.

Nice one, redbull boy

 

[Kenai]

I'm definitely not saying it's impossible. The leak could be sabotage from someone else in corporate trying to undermine him, but it could equally be some photoshopped none-sense.

People are quick to witch hunt and call certainty purely on emotion, which is sad.

As your own personal opinion on it, do you think it's more likely they're genuine or fabricated?

Personally, I think they're probably genuine - there's too much resigned acceptance of their existence, no challenge or question being made towards their legitimacy and ultimately they just don't seem bad enough to have been worth faking in the first place. If you're going to take a chance on faking stuff like this, why go for such a damp squib?