MP Jo Cox murdered in West Yorkshire [Thread title edited]

I think this will help Brexit , sleazy Dave being well... sleazy , and mentally ill people not getting the care and support they need because the NHS is over stretched from EU economic migrants, making them feel neglected and angry.
 
Local talk is all about him having had mental health problems in the past, getting help and then cuts meaning the help was lost potentially leading to issues with the state.

How much of that is true is hard to gauge, especially in light of the reported leanings or sympathies or ideologies.
I wasn't aware of all that, thanks for the information. It does seem very plausible because I know for a fact how the cuts have it (previous 12 years mental health advocate/support here).
 
Yeah, I was keen to say it was local talk because that's all it is. There's no real evidence it's mostly conjecture and hearsay. He was known for being a bit weird but people will attach all sorts of things to that.

Yeah - understandable really. It's interesting how perception of him has changed over the last 24 hours - when the news first broke, he was being put about as being quiet, a bit of a loner but helped people out, everyone was surprised etc etc. But now the prominent trends are that he was very much a loner, weird, disturbed, mental health issues.
 
I think it could be useful to know what sort of metal health issues. That go some way to being able to verify the theory of cuts to services.
All areas have been hit but personal support especially in ones own home has been hammered. He may have been admitted at some point into a support unit and cuts may have seen him, as a low risk, be released.

We just don't know at the moment, it really could be anything.
 
Lol, so your jumping to conclusions is ok (even though just as incorrect) because of the difference between these two incidents, gotcha :D

Cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.

Haha, I'm so glad other people are starting to pick up on his utter hypocrisy. I managed to suss out his agenda many many months ago and his cognition remains unchanged to this very minute.
 
There is more to this story. More will come out soon.

The shooter has mental health issues and is easily led. Particularity easily led by his brother. How "he" got hold of a gun will be key

All is not as it seems right now
 
There is more to this story. More will come out soon.

The shooter has mental health issues and is easily led. Particularity easily led by his brother. How "he" got hold of a gun will be key

All is not as it seems right now

Interesting, where are you getting this from?
 
A friend has known him all her life.

If the inference is this guy was manipulated by the agenda of others, than this is a tragic event for him as well, as I wonder how much of the official investigation would look into this on apportioning culpability.
 
If the inference is this guy was manipulated by the agenda of others, than this is a tragic event for him as well, as I wonder how much of the official investigation would look into this on apportioning culpability.

If there was some sort of conspiracy then it's arguably terrorism so there would def be further arrests.
 
If there was some sort of conspiracy then it's arguably terrorism so there would def be further arrests.

What happened to a good old assassination these days? Why's this terrorism? More and more this looks like an individual that was specifically targeted. Not an attempt to create fear amongst the public.
 
There is more to this story. More will come out soon.

The shooter has mental health issues and is easily led. Particularity easily led by his brother. How "he" got hold of a gun will be key

All is not as it seems right now

Inform the right people.
 
If there was some sort of conspiracy then it's arguably terrorism so there would def be further arrests.

If valid, you would certainly hope so

What happened to a good old assassination these days? Why's this terrorism? More and more this looks like an individual that was specifically targeted. Not an attempt to create fear amongst the public.

I guess assassination is the act, terrorism the motive?...but anyway, it's the in vogue term, so yea, I agree everything seems to just be lazily called terrorism nowadays
 
If the inference is this guy was manipulated by the agenda of others, than this is a tragic event for him as well, as I wonder how much of the official investigation would look into this on apportioning culpability.

He'll go to prison or a hospital forever and a day regardless if he was manipulated or not. Sounds tragic all round :(
 
What happened to a good old assassination these days? Why's this terrorism? More and more this looks like an individual that was specifically targeted. Not an attempt to create fear amongst the public.

She may have been targeted but I'm not sure it's accurate to say it hasn't created fear - especially if he is a member of a group that has similar views and is coordinating this sort of thing. We need to know what the motivation was.
 
What happened to a good old assassination these days? Why's this terrorism? More and more this looks like an individual that was specifically targeted. Not an attempt to create fear amongst the public.

A terrorist is not simply someone who creates fear amongst the public. If that were the case every single news outlet would technically be a terrorist organisation.

If this man killed her for political reasons, then he killed her because he believed the act would cast fear and terror within politics, and is therefore a terrorist. A terrorist doesn't have to have something against the public for him to be a terrorist, where did you get that idea? No, his aim is not to cast terror to the public, it's to cast terror to politicians, IF of course it was politically motivated and not just a random slaughtering.

In fact the definition of terrorist is "a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.". It's got nothing to do with casting fear amongst the general public, that's the job of news outlets.


In fact you say "More and more this looks like an individual that was specifically targeted." but you conveniently forget the fact that this "specific" woman was a politician? Cognitive dissonance?
 
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Wonder if there is a link to BF, there will be calls for the group to be banned? Wouldn't really be a loss to many people...
 
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