MP Jo Cox murdered in West Yorkshire [Thread title edited]

[cheesyboy]

I don't think any of the polls are representative. We will stay in and I suspect by a fair margin too. People talk a good game in the UK, but come the box ticking will bottle it. My view.

I agree that the reality will be more skewed toward Remain than the polls suggest, but I'd say the polls are still somewhat useful for seeing the moving of the opinion tide. So where they suggest Leave is dropping in popularity, it probably really is.

 

[TheMightyTen]

Thomas Mair provisional trial fixed for 14th November

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36605499


I can see it not being an easy trial for the Judge to run because of the emotive context and press coverage.

 

[Chris Wilson]

It's not exactly complex though is it? Pretty much cut and dried with plenty of witnesses and a single perpetrator behind bars.

 

[TheMightyTen]

The case may not be but the correct application of the law and it's process will be especially with the grey area of the mental health state of Mair being thrown in the mix, it will be a media and political frenzy and the Judge has to control that to see that any verdict is the correct one.

 

[SciNeT]

Why do people think things like this influence only 'other people'? Im not influenced by this death at all and I am sure most people aren't. The media might seek to use it and talk about the huge influence this has had for the stay campaign, but they have strong agendas so it suits agendas and clicks onto websites.

I'm not so sure, several people I know were all for remain until the vultures descended on the murder of Jo Cox and tried to force the "Britain First" meme for their own political gain.

 

[TheMightyTen]

Not really surprising since it was an open and shut case but Thomas Mair has just been found guilty of murder. Mair sounds like a nutter and an abhorrent little man from the case as it's been presented.

 

[Rotty]

ridiculous that he even pleaded not guilty

 

[diamount]

ridiculous that he even pleaded not guilty

Zealots tend to believe in their cause. I truly believe in his head his murder was righteous.

 

[Catanonia]

Whole life sentence and judge has refused his attempt to make a speech at the end of the trail.

 

[FTM]

Whole life sentence and judge has refused his attempt to make a speech at the end of the trail.

and glad he did..he was obviously waiting for his chance to spout some drivel, he deserves no such chance

 

[cheesyboy]

ridiculous that he even pleaded not guilty

Don't think he entered a plea did he?

 

[TJM]

If you dont enter a plea I beleive your plea is defaulted to not guilty

Yup.

Mair has (entirely of his own choice) not played any part in these proceedings apart from sitting in the dock - no plea, no defence and no mitigation.

 

[Rotty]

Don't think he entered a plea did he?

ah ok, the trial was still a waste of time though but I suppose they had to go through the motions

 

[Orionaut]

Whole life sentence and judge has refused his attempt to make a speech at the end of the trail.

Well, Now it seems that the local authority was trying to edge him out of the home he had lived in since he was a child in favour, He beloved, (Rightly or wrongly) of a migrant family, and that his appeals to his MP (Jo Cox) had fallen on deaf ears.

It does put a rather more personal context on the case. (As opposed to one with wider political implications IE Brexit/remain) and One that a lot of people might have been rather more sympathetic about. and might therefore have been politically embarrassing if it was allowed to be made public in open court.

I am not surprised they wanted to keep him quiet. :/

 

[cheesyboy]

Well, Now it seems that the local authority was trying to edge him out of the home he had lived in since he was a child in favour, He beloved, (Rightly or wrongly) of a migrant family, and that his appeals to his MP (Jo Cox) had fallen on deaf ears.

It does put a rather more personal context on the case. (As opposed to one with wider political implications IE Brexit/remain) and One that a lot of people might have been rather more sympathetic about. and might therefore have been politically embarrassing if it was allowed to be made public in open court.

I am not surprised they wanted to keep him quiet. :/

Daily Mail source, by any chance? It's utter nonsense.

In any case, the bedroom tax isn't a very good reason to murder your MP: if you sympathise with that then you're a nutter.

 

[IvanDobskey]

I don't see how any sane person can sympathise with this cowardly vile excuse for a human being

 

[Danthus]

Well, Now it seems that the local authority was trying to edge him out of the home he had lived in since he was a child in favour, He beloved, (Rightly or wrongly) of a migrant family, and that his appeals to his MP (Jo Cox) had fallen on deaf ears.

It does put a rather more personal context on the case. (As opposed to one with wider political implications IE Brexit/remain) and One that a lot of people might have been rather more sympathetic about. and might therefore have been politically embarrassing if it was allowed to be made public in open court.

I am not surprised they wanted to keep him quiet. :/

Red or brown please.

 

[diamount]

Well, Now it seems that the local authority was trying to edge him out of the home he had lived in since he was a child in favour, He beloved, (Rightly or wrongly) of a migrant family, and that his appeals to his MP (Jo Cox) had fallen on deaf ears.

It does put a rather more personal context on the case. (As opposed to one with wider political implications IE Brexit/remain) and One that a lot of people might have been rather more sympathetic about. and might therefore have been politically embarrassing if it was allowed to be made public in open court.

I am not surprised they wanted to keep him quiet. :/

You really are a piece of work, aren't you?

 

[TheMightyTen]

I believe murder is an acceptable outcome of rumours of spurious claims

We're still waiting for your source. I've not been able to find a single reference to this anywhere