My Test of GRAW running with and without physX

turtle3 · 1 May 2006 at 12:16

OMFGG,,,, Im sorry but what an absolutely awfull looking game,, I was a bit dissapointed with the 360 version but to this version it looks a million dollars, I know looks are not everything, but...... I stopped playing after 5 mins, it looks like a PS2 game IMO..

Durzel · 1 May 2006 at 12:34

Any way OCUK can reveal a list of names who have bought into this sham card so we can point and laugh?

The Running Man · 1 May 2006 at 12:35

problem i see it is that its a first gen design, probably specced up a near or two ago and thrust into the market place as they didnt have time to remake it (financial viability etc) and ship it quick enough to gain market share befor Nv and ATi release their versions.

thus u have a product which isnt powerful enough to keep up with current gfx cards and whilst enabled nice explosions it is slower than your gpu would be doing less taxing explosion calculations etc.

and so i would definately wait to see how it performs in the next batch of games designed around it. if its carp forget about it tbh

Cyber-Mav · 1 May 2006 at 14:40

looks like it is gonna be a dead end this card. no life in it and no power too.

Dutch Guy · 1 May 2006 at 14:56

Cyber-Mav said:
looks like it is gonna be a dead end this card. no life in it and no power too.

That is a bit harsh, it takes months/years to develop a game, I think that if they incorporate the possiblity from the start of the game design the performance will be much better.

[ui]ICEMAN · 1 May 2006 at 19:11

Got hold of Bet on Soldier but the 1.2 patch doesn't enable PhysX, nor can I seem to source the patch that does.

Cyanide · 1 May 2006 at 19:30

[ui]ICEMAN said:
Got hold of Bet on Soldier but the 1.2 patch doesn't enable PhysX, nor can I seem to source the patch that does.

Evidently the patches haven't been released yet...

ihatelag · 1 May 2006 at 19:39

Cyanide said:
Evidently the patches haven't been released yet...

Also the company that made the game has gone into hiding and shut down their forums lol

Thing is...they (Digital Jesters) made the game using the AGEIA SDK, which probably means it's active as soon as you play the game (if you have the PPU on the system).

Iceman have you tried playing the game with the PPU physically in the system and without....it's could probably be on as default....worth a try just to check :s Cant find anywhere to ask for support except for a german forum

[ui]ICEMAN · 1 May 2006 at 19:43

Makes no difference, the PhysX effects are not active. From what I can see online, there is mention of a patch, I certainly can't find that though.

Cyanide · 1 May 2006 at 19:51

ihatelag said:
Also the company that made the game has gone into hiding and shut down their forums lol

Thing is...they (Digital Jesters) made the game using the AGEIA SDK, which probably means it's active as soon as you play the game (if you have the PPU on the system).

Iceman have you tried playing the game with the PPU physically in the system and without....it's could probably be on as default....worth a try just to check :s Cant find anywhere to ask for support except for a german forum

There's a patch that gives some new weapons and it's the weapons that are PhysX enabled, not the game itself

ihatelag · 1 May 2006 at 21:35

Cyanide said:
There's a patch that gives some new weapons and it's the weapons that are PhysX enabled, not the game itself

Ahh, I see, but from what I remember last year, they were working with NovodeX which is the PhysX SDK...shame they mass advertised the point, only for a patch with a few weapons with PPU enabled.

Edit----

I can see this file: New! AGEIA PhysX - Bet On Soldier 40.4Mb

which is probably the file you need....but the link to the page is dead lol.

Click me to view search results

ihatelag · 1 May 2006 at 22:14

I think this is it? But I guess only Iceman will know if he downloads it or someone who knows Russian: http://www.playground.ru/files/6166/

[ui]ICEMAN · 1 May 2006 at 22:27

Unfortunately that's a video showcasing the effects, thanks for trying though

ihatelag · 1 May 2006 at 22:44

[ui]ICEMAN said:
Unfortunately that's a video showcasing the effects, thanks for trying though

Awww okay

Shame it wasn't the file. I didn't know exactly what is was because of the Russian language there.

I guess we could email digital jesters and ask them for the patch...but if you see their forums, they have closed it down and made a run for the hills. Funny how the game was only released a few months ago and the game support seems to have disappeared...they probably closed down after seeing how PhysX ruined their game...only kidding

EDIT---

Just watched the video, it seems that when the flame thrower is used, the game seems to get choppier....even more ironic, is that this is most evident just after they advertise the "fluid weapons"...probably the persons computer who is doing the demonstration can't handle all the calculations....or just that the max rate of the PCI slot cannot communicate fast enough between the CPU and GPU.

Also the physics debris in the game looks ugly and untextured...it really shows how far AGEIA need to go to improve the PPU. -I suppose it takes several viewings to see the flaws after being awe'd by the fireworks.

[ui]ICEMAN · 1 May 2006 at 23:46

All of Digital Jesters emails have been shut down, got a variety of emails which eventually led me to the correct one, however I was met with this.

"Hi, thank you for contacting Digital Jesters. Unfortunately we are no longer a Publishing company and am unable to answer your query."

ihatelag · 2 May 2006 at 00:03

[ui]ICEMAN said:
All of Digital Jesters emails have been shut down, got a variety of emails which eventually led me to the correct one, however I was met with this.

"Hi, thank you for contacting Digital Jesters. Unfortunately we are no longer a Publishing company and am unable to answer your query."

Ohh! Looks like they really did run for the hills

So I guess we're stuck then

I would have thought flying under the PhysX banner would have made them a popular testing game...shame they're no longer around.

I suppose we're going to have to wait until another game comes out which can use the PPU. I guess AGEIA have a breathing gap until the next game that's released!

*Advises jury to sentence AGEIA to the rubbish pit if they fail to deliver in the next game that's released - court adjourned! *

james32 · 2 May 2006 at 00:39

ah this crap was around 10 years ago

i bought a matrox mystique 4mb came with 3 games for the card.
only other game it supported was tomb raider 1 in 3d, £189 10 years ago

then voodoo 1 came out 1 month or 2 later, killed the matrox
then voodoo 2 sli £180 for 1 card
then voodoo 3 another £149 6 months later, killed both cards above
then geforce 1 riva tnt killed voodoo off
then geforce 2

guys wait for the 1 card that will kill all the cards put together, and you will never get conned with this marketing ploy and never buy into new technology
i see all this crap just repeating its self, kind of like the music industry.

its doomed to fail who wants 3 cards in their pc when 1 will do the job a few months down the line.

Gerard · 2 May 2006 at 01:51

ihatelag said:
I think this is it? But I guess only Iceman will know if he downloads it or someone who knows Russian: http://www.playground.ru/files/6166/

Lol that looked like crap, kinda looks like those little blocks that go flying in graw with a physics card stuck into a flamethrower in this game. It did look a bit more fluid though but al the "chunks" i suppose took away from the effect.

n3x · 2 May 2006 at 09:43

has anyone seen the flatout 2 trailer?

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2571

fair enough the graphics arnt top of the line but the physics are very impressive, especially for a game being released on the ps2!?

Things change I've changed · 2 May 2006 at 14:03

Agiea want to ring me :eek:

Should I give them my number ?