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I thought it was a bit odd...
NEC LCD20WGX2 review *** UPDATED 25/02/06 ***
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The manual says colours - 16,700,000 - i.e. 8 bit.
do you think it will be possible for OcUK to sell the US version even if its more expensive
lack of HDCP is really putting me off seeing as i plan to keep this monitor for some time and in a few years lack of HDCP will severely affect resale value
lack of HDCP is really putting me off seeing as i plan to keep this monitor for some time and in a few years lack of HDCP will severely affect resale value
Well, that's why my message was that this is just personal. Some people will find it annoying, some people will just used to it, some people will ignore it, for some people it would not be important (as only black background is affected), some people will sacrifice it for the improved monitor clarity, smoothness and colour reproduction ... etc. I would suggest that you give a few days to the monitor and see how it goes. If it's still unbearable or annoying then probably you will never adapt to this type of screen.Chaos said:After a good sesion with this monitor im seriously considering returning it, dont get me wrong gaming etc was awsome but im finding the glossy reflective screen to overpowering, think it might be the way my room is set up but the reflection of the screen is very anoying even after changing the lights in my room its still an issue
For example, today was very bright day in London and my window is just in front of the screen. There was intensive sun light coming in, but still I couldn't find it annoying as I could work normally and finish the work for today, but at the same time I wasn't distracted because of the glossy screen.
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Excuse me, but what is the point of this thread and what are you trying to tell us here ?FoxEye said:
I wonder. Instead of posting some stupid pictures where there is a 200W bulb just above the monitors, maybe it would be more "constructive" that we hear & learn from user comments here.FoxEye said:
You have such talk when people are not informed and they are lazy to do some actual research, before posting such information on the forum and confuse everyone. As I said before, IPS panels are offering "traditionally" full 24-bit colour. In other words they are natively 8-bit.Raymond Lin said:
igors said:
That info on the backlight bleed was actually quoted from "Inaharry", however I'll also comment. Strangely, I experienced something similar. On the first day of using the monitor, maybe a couple of hours after first switching on (and after tweaking the settings), I checked the pixels and then for any backlight bleed. I did notice small amounts of bleed in all four corners, but after watching a DVD I didn't think any more of it as it wasn't noticeable.
I've just checked it again now after reading the post by Inaharry and the bleed is greatly reduced, I can only see it in the left corners now, and smaller than before. The monitor has been on for about 8 hours today. The level of brightness will affect perceived backlight bleed, and I'm currently set at 32% for both brightness and contrast. What kind of level is everyone else using?
Perhaps it is something to do with acclimatisation. Perhaps the longer you leave it to warm up the better it is. I'm not sure, all I know is that I'm very happy with this monitor.
As for the glossy screen, it's not causing me any issues. The only time I thought I would notice it would be when watching a film but it seems even with the lights on in my room the reflections are not a big deal. For me it's like comparing it to aperture grille wires. If I looked for them on my 930SB I would see them, but the rest of the time I didn't notice. It's the same thing with the reflections. To a lesser extent the glass screen of my CRT was reflective so it's not such a big jump. Perhaps if you already have a TFT with an anti-reflective coating the difference may be more pronounced.
Gibbo said:
Mine came from a competitor that I work for, though even after discount came to the same price you guys are selling it for.
Interesting enough, as my monitor is now running for almost 18 days, I tried to increase the brightness to 100% and no single trace of backlight.BigChin1 said:
I'm currently @ 50% brightness & 50% contrast. It's jet black & alpine white
Maybe I will try to decrease the brightness to 40%, still not sure about the "sweet spot" and hopefully everyone else will find it eventually. In some general sense, such settings are probably just personal. They are usually related with the intensity of ambient light and user preference about the brightness.When you mentioned this, just remembered that one user told me that picture on his previous TFT with anti-reflective coating was somewhat more "fuzzy" and with much less "clarity" (apart from doing the anti reflective job). Apparently, he didn't like it. Not sure what is the meaning of this, from either perceptive or technological level.BigChin1 said:
I'm not so sure about this monitor anymore. £400+ for a wider 17" monitor is too much in my opinion, coupled with no HDCP, seems like a great way to lose loads of money if you ask me..
This glossy screen although nice, could be an absolute nightmare during daylight hours with a window nearby. Think I might limp on until 22" come along at the same price with HDCP, could be in for a very long wait..
This glossy screen although nice, could be an absolute nightmare during daylight hours with a window nearby. Think I might limp on until 22" come along at the same price with HDCP, could be in for a very long wait..
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sorryFoxEye said:You haven't added on delivery charge have you
but if you've got enough disposable cash to buy a £400 monitor when you've already got one
your not that hard up that £20 makes a huge difference.
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frogboy said:
why bother ? by the time HDCP does come along, there will be hacks around it. I mean if you've legitimately bought a HD-DVD drive, legitimately bought a HD-DVD from the shops, a HDCP complaint motherboard processor and graphics card, why the hell shouldnt your current monitor work with it ?
they're gonna have a hard time forcing every1 to buy completely new PCs to watch HD movies, without asking them to change monitors too.
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frogboy said:
Its only bad if you're looking at black. Like I said before when I 1st booted up, I could easily see the reflections, but my desktop color is black. I stuck a nice widescreen backdrop on there and cant see them anymore.
The picture quality on this thing is utterly lovely tho. My flatmate has 24" dell's and I think this has way better image quality. Considering he paid over 700 a piece (albeit 24", but worse response times) I think its pretty good value.
Dont think of it as a wider 17". I have my Sony E400 19" CRT next to it, and its pretty much identical in vertical screen space.
As couple of forum users have migrated from DiamondPro 930SB CRT, this may be interesting for them any maybe others who are worried about the colour reproduction when migrating from CRT:
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=120&ma2=52&mo2=95&p2=969&ph=6
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=120&ma2=52&mo2=95&p2=969&ph=6
Heh, the first link was unnecessary, was just to show where I found the picturesigors said:
The second link was the picture itself, naturally. I posted them because I thought it would be helpful for people to actually see the glossy coating. There is only so much you can describe with words, ya know?As for what am I trying to tell you? I think you're being a bit defensive here, and that just makes me wonder why? I am certainly not implying that users here are somehow not as expert as Anand users, and hope you didn't get that impression. But where did you get the idea that there was a 200W bulb just above the monitor? That room doesn't look over-bright to me.
As for the picture being "stupid", well if enough feel that it is a moderator can remove it, I'm sure. It's not exactly false advertising now is it? Anyway, no need to start an argument here, so I'll leave it at that
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FoxEye said:
My philips had the same backlight bleed
as did several others if you look in the philips thread.
Are you joking with me ? Last thing that I want is to be defensive in this thread ?! You may actually read complete thread and see how & why.FoxEye said:
That room is *very* bright and that viewing angle is simply "strange". Who will look at the monitor from that FOV ?! Also, that scene & environment is not indicative nor common one (as each of you out there is surrounded by different environment when using the monitor). So ... what such picture is the proof of ?? And to repeat again:FoxEye said:
igors said:
?!?!?!FoxEye said:
Fair enough.FoxEye said:Anyway, no need to start an argument here, so I'll leave it at that
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