NEC LCD20WGX2 review *** UPDATED 25/02/06 ***

Nobski said:
As an example have a very close look at the picture below, do the legs stay the same brightness / colour ? :cool:
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LOL, you are nuts :D effort is much appreciated. Anyhow, as the picture is worth more then thousands of words, you are so right ;) I was just unaware that such perceptive illusion can end up in TCO standard. So, yeah, as an additional bonus, NEC is the "honest" monitor. LOL
 
hudson said:
Well I'm gonna be sending back my old one on tuesday, the light bleed has gone, theres no dead pixels on this one and the buttons work great.

Seems NEC have finally got it sorted, I do sometimes wish i had gone for the 20 wide viewsonic but I'm done. Doubt I'll buy NEC again after this....

Now for my next purchase.....anyone know owt about DVB tuners for pc (usb kind).


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I spoke too soon. I cant bloody believe it but my monitor case is warped. I'll try and add a photo but the top of the case doesnt alligned theres a crackin big lump sticking up. Not sure whther it does it cause it is warm or not. will see when i let it cool.

Grr getting might ****** off witht his anyone want to buy a 3 day old NEC 20WGX2 because theyre not sodding worth it.

see here

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hudson said:
Well I'm gonna be sending back my old one on tuesday, the light bleed has gone, theres no dead pixels on this one and the buttons work great.

Seems NEC have finally got it sorted, I do sometimes wish i had gone for the 20 wide viewsonic but I'm done. Doubt I'll buy NEC again after this....

Now for my next purchase.....anyone know owt about DVB tuners for pc (usb kind).


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I`ve got a nebula pci digitv card which is very good, they also do usb versions as well with the ability to record programmes and whole multiplexes if you want. The software is very good as well, but you will need a reasonable external aerial feed just as you would for non pc DVB ~ linky :)
( dons please remove if considered competition )

Edit: Dam, sorry to hear about your probs with that monitor, time for an RMA ? :(
 
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Got my replacement today, my heart sank straight away when I saw there was a nice hole in the side of the box and it was the screen side. :(
Took monitor out and gave screen a long hard look, everything all ok :D
Left it for about an hour to warm up and then started hooking it up thats when I noticed that the serial number is earlier than my original one :confused:
Powered up and did DPB on it and glad to say no dead or stuck pixels although my original one didnt at the start and one came about a week later so will wait out for definate on that. Closed all curtains and did black screensaver, no noticeable hotspots and the screen is uniform in colour. Will keep her on and will look again later on when shes nice and warm.
Buttons are all ok and bezel seems alright, did comparison look side by side with my original one and everything seems the same screen and bezel wise.
Bit of an update just rang Sarah ref serial numbers and she has confirmed that these are brand new ones and not ones from problem batch so even though it has an earlier number it is a good one.
 
Picture quality is definately better with this one than the original. With the original one if I had DV mode on gaming and looking at the grey at top of IE it would look patchy grey. Just cycled through all DV modes and this one has no patchy IE bar, uniform grey all the way through. I thought that it was just one of those things with being on gaming because with it being on standard and text it was fine. Looking at it it seems as though some picture quality issues have been resolved as well.
 
Very good. So it seems (and according to user reports here) that NEC finally hit the ball with the new batch and that panel uniformity is really good. Actually, on the same level I was hoping for after reviewing this panel.
 
Explore the NEC capabilities - HD streams

If anyone would like to experiment with HD transport streams playback on NEC, I would suggest this:

http://www.dvbportal.de/projects/hdtvpump/

Firstly, download the "HDTVPump Version 1.0.7" DirectShow HD filter and install it. Filter will properly associate all .ts .tp transport stream files and you will be able to play them by using Windows Media Player 10, Zoom Player or any other DirectShow filter compatible player. HDTVpump is very good HD/DS filter, maybe the best around. After this, you may download demo HD streams from the same page, play them and explore the capabilities of your NEC Those HD demo streams will perfectly show the NEC capabilities and that also includes the wonderfull, so natural colour reproduction and suprisingly good contrast, even at default, out of the box monitor settings - without additional colour calibration and just with the brightness tuned down. My preference is just standard monitor profile + Advanced DVM, but you may experiment with other profiles as well and according to your preference.
 
icemansin said:
For those who have bought the NEC 20WGX2, have you used the Adjustment Pattern Software? Whats it for exactly? (calibrating the colours)
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No particular use of that software. It's rather outdated Nec-Mitsubishi software from 2003! for monitor geometry adjustment. It's maybe usefull for CRT monitors and sometimes when using the VGA input on LCD. Not sure how it ended up on that CD :)
 
Got mine out last night,

No problems with banding, back light etc. no bad pixals either. My seems to be emmiting a high pitched noise in standby is this normal? Its not very lould, but i can hear it prefectly and its annoying.
 
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I'm getting my replacment tomorrow, So hopefully it'll be nice a black and not grey/greeney black and hopefully not dead pixels.

Another problem with mine it that every now and again it'll turn its self off ! weird eh ! not like a power saving feature as in after 10mins.
It does it when surfing the web or playing games !

Its not been a massive issue as I've not really used it much recently as i've been going out far too much in recent weeks, oh and just been on hols for a week also !

Cheers,
 
Hi all,

First time post here, although I have been purchasing goods from OCUK for years.
This thread is just what I have been looking for, sat and read every page last night as I'm going to order my NEC next week. What I haven't seen metioned but would like to ask is, has anyone who has a cordless mouse .i.e MX1000 or G7 had any lag in game at all? I play COD2 and a wee bit of CSS although I'm bored of that after 3 years playing it on and off? I also play BF2, a good friend of mine brought a 20" LCD from OCUK not to long ago (can't remember the make/model) and sent it back as the mouse lag was terrible. I know that had an 8ms response time and this is a fast 6ms ? But you can't beat asking the people who actually use this kit day in and day out...!!

If someone could just confirm it's not an issue then I can sleep better knowing that I may have one of these fantasticc LCD's sitting on my desk by next weekend :) I currently have a Sony 20" Multiscan 500ps and I borrowed a 15" TFT the other day to do some work at home and the picture was lots better so it has to go!!
Thanks in advance

Regards

TF
 
tweakinfreak said:
This thread is just what I have been looking for, sat and read every page last night as I'm going to order my NEC next week.
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If you read every page of this thread, that must be a long read ;)

tweakinfreak said:
What I haven't seen metioned but would like to ask is, has anyone who has a cordless mouse .i.e MX1000 or G7 had any lag in game at all? I play COD2 and a wee bit of CSS although I'm bored of that after 3 years playing it on and off? I also play BF2, a good friend of mine brought a 20" LCD from OCUK not to long ago (can't remember the make/model) and sent it back as the mouse lag was terrible. I know that had an 8ms response time and this is a fast 6ms ? But you can't beat asking the people who actually use this kit day in and day out...!!
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I don't use the cordless mouse or keyboard. I like the things in corded way and I'm usually avoiding to run the essential input devices on batteries :D Anyhow, as far as I can tell mouse lag simply doesn't exist. I played many different games (especially for the review, so that gaming sector is covered properly) and didn't notice this. Actually, I couldn't find nothing particularly and worth mentioning, which was distracting me from the gaming immersion.

tweakinfreak said:
If someone could just confirm it's not an issue then I can sleep better knowing that I may have one of these fantasticc LCD's sitting on my desk by next weekend :) I currently have a Sony 20" Multiscan 500ps and I borrowed a 15" TFT the other day to do some work at home and the picture was lots better so it has to go!!
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Maybe other users may also confirm input lag worries as I guess that single input and only from me is maybe not satisfactory from your point of view. I can just say that I'm sure that you will be pleased with the monitor, especially if you are the user who is migrating from the CRT grounds.
 
I got my replacement through on monday. Nice and even blackness all over the screen! there is unfortunately one dead pixel but that right down the bottom on the task bar so its not a problem at all. And my OSD controls are actually aligned properly this time so its not a case of pot luck as to what it would do as with my last version of this screen. Top notch screen tho, absolutely love it!!

Can i ask people what settings they use tho? i've been playing about with it and would like to know what other people are using when gaming as i seem t just be using the standard mode with DV onfor games and off for windows,with brightness at about 75% and contrast at 50%. Anyone found a sweet spot and if so what?
 
Hi Igor,

Thanks for that mate, I'm confident I won't have any issues, my bessy mate is waiting for me to get one first and then as long as we're both happy with the product he will then purchase from OCUK.

As I said before I have been buying from OC for years and didn't know about this forum? Its idea really so people can talk it over before buying..!!
Great thread and great forum, I'll be looking in all the time now to do more reading :)

Thanks again

TF
 
Can i ask people what settings they use tho? i've been playing about with it and would like to know what other people are using when gaming as i seem t just be using the standard mode with DV onfor games and off for windows,with brightness at about 75% and contrast at 50%. Anyone found a sweet spot and if so what?
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A thread i created on just that

I just keep mine on standard now and 50% cont and 70% Bright, tun on Adv DVMode in games....

Hope that helps!
 
Disaster has struck!

Last few days I started having problems with the monitor blinking on and off... I attributed this to the graphics card though. Early today I started noticing the odd bit of corruption and was convinced my GPU was borked, so I swapped in another card and it was fine for a bit then all of a sudden... blune lines accross the screen. As the day has progressed it has gotten a whole lot worse, upon powering up im getting a great picture for 20 mins - 1 hour and then all of a sudden... green and purple lines accross the screen and the monitor loses the DVI signal. The longer it is on the worse image quality gets... a moment ago the screen was very blurry with degraded IQ.

Can't believe this... I was loving this montor so much and now I have to go through the entire bloody hassle of contacting NEC for an RMA... which may have bleed or dead pixels.

Is it possible the DVI cable is faulty? Do they even go faulty? Is this definate signs of a borked monitor?

What a nightmare! :(
 
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