Indeed...but BF3 is going to be a GPU killer from what I understand. To achieve more than 60 frames per second could be a challenge..and in 3D, forget it!
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Indeed...but BF3 is going to be a GPU killer from what I understand. To achieve more than 60 frames per second could be a challenge..and in 3D, forget it!
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Where's PCM2 with his full review
Patience was never one of my strong points so I went ahead and ordered one today without waiting for a PCM2 review
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Where's PCM2 with his full review
Yeah... I wouldn't hold your breath. Samsung don't have any damn review samples yet.
They said later this month when all of the models officially launch (including the SA750) they should hopefully have some. If I can't wait that long I might get myself an SA750 and review it (just to be different as lots of people already have a good idea about the SA950 
). At the moment I'm reviewing the C23A750X (Central Station) which many people have probably not even heard of and very few who have will actually want.
It isn't even going to be a full review due to time constraints and other commitments. How depressing. 
My experience with the 950 has not been good at all. I don't want to be a killjoy to the people who have the monitor and are enjoying it but I promised that I would be honest in my appraisal, whether I kept it or not, for the people thinking of buying one.
It has washed out colours and details, it's like everything on the screen lacks detail and definition, terrible banding, noticeable input lag, bad screen uniformity and a horrifically reflective glossy panel.
Tried every combination of settings both on the monitor and my gpu control panel trying to make it look half decent.
Compared to my trusty old 245b, it looked like garbage, a step down in every way. The only thing it had over my current monitor was the 120hz but the higher input lag meant that even that didn't count.
Actually, the response time on "fastest" was very nice. That was the monitors strong point.
Will go into more detail when I get the chance over the next week or so.
Again, I may have just had a bad panel, seems I'm unlucky when it comes to monitors.
Input lag is certainly manageable and I don't doubt that most people won't notice it. I play a lot of fps games and japanese shmups that require fast reflexes. I'm not saying that I'm superman, just that I'm quite sensitive to it and notice any change from what I'm used to. Playing in the "thru" mode on the lg I tried was a "wow!" moment. Far better than what I'm used to, this monitor was the exact opposite. Just waggling the stick around in akai katana shin you can see the delay, games like black ops and left for dead 2, very responsive games, felt a lot more floaty.
A game like fear 3 which isn't terrible but has quite a muddy mouse look responsiveness felt like it had vsync on at 60hz when played on this monitor. Played on my 245b (average of around 7ms input lag), it's totally passable.
This is all subjective, I don't have a crt to measure the actual numbers, it's just how it feels to me.
It has washed out colours and details, it's like everything on the screen lacks detail and definition, terrible banding, noticeable input lag, bad screen uniformity and a horrifically reflective glossy panel.
Tried every combination of settings both on the monitor and my gpu control panel trying to make it look half decent.
Compared to my trusty old 245b, it looked like garbage, a step down in every way. The only thing it had over my current monitor was the 120hz but the higher input lag meant that even that didn't count.
Actually, the response time on "fastest" was very nice. That was the monitors strong point.
Will go into more detail when I get the chance over the next week or so.
Again, I may have just had a bad panel, seems I'm unlucky when it comes to monitors.
Input lag is certainly manageable and I don't doubt that most people won't notice it. I play a lot of fps games and japanese shmups that require fast reflexes. I'm not saying that I'm superman, just that I'm quite sensitive to it and notice any change from what I'm used to. Playing in the "thru" mode on the lg I tried was a "wow!" moment. Far better than what I'm used to, this monitor was the exact opposite. Just waggling the stick around in akai katana shin you can see the delay, games like black ops and left for dead 2, very responsive games, felt a lot more floaty.
A game like fear 3 which isn't terrible but has quite a muddy mouse look responsiveness felt like it had vsync on at 60hz when played on this monitor. Played on my 245b (average of around 7ms input lag), it's totally passable.
This is all subjective, I don't have a crt to measure the actual numbers, it's just how it feels to me.
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Indeed, the last thing I can say about this monitor is the word lag. And on top of that I disagree with things looking washed out. The colours are vibrant and "out of the box" fairly accurate too. No banding. Uniformity is a lottery though. I got very lucky with mine but side-lit LED TVs are typically not great.
The only 3 negative observations
1) Some light leakage at the lower sides where the backlight is.
2) As mentioned above, the monitor doesn't sit true vertical/upright
3) I do agree that the glossy panel has some negatives, and I think semi-gloss would have been the best compromise.
Other than that, the main issue is that the drivers need to catch-up with the monitor so we can head towards the goal of 120Hz frame sequential.
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Hi
Dont know if nyone has run the tridef software recently but looks like it got updated a couple of days ago:
Changes in 1.1
•The 3D Display Mode will now be automatically chosen based on the connection type, graphics card, etc.
•If HDMI 1.4 is used then the 3D Display Mode defaults to "Side by side (High frame rate)", however you can change this to "HD3D (High resolution)" if desired using TriDef 3D Ignition's Options menu -> 3D Display Mode.
•If your monitor supports multiple 3D frequencies, then a "3D Display Frequency" option will be displayed in TriDef 3D Ignition. Change this setting if you experience flickering due to fluorescent lighting.
•SyncMaster 3D Game Mode Display Settings has now been removed as it is no longer necessary.
Also there are catalyst 11.7 preview drivers and hotfix drivers doing the rounds if you google it wether or not the frame sequantial had been added to these drivers is another matter though.
Dont know if nyone has run the tridef software recently but looks like it got updated a couple of days ago:
Changes in 1.1
•The 3D Display Mode will now be automatically chosen based on the connection type, graphics card, etc.
•If HDMI 1.4 is used then the 3D Display Mode defaults to "Side by side (High frame rate)", however you can change this to "HD3D (High resolution)" if desired using TriDef 3D Ignition's Options menu -> 3D Display Mode.
•If your monitor supports multiple 3D frequencies, then a "3D Display Frequency" option will be displayed in TriDef 3D Ignition. Change this setting if you experience flickering due to fluorescent lighting.
•SyncMaster 3D Game Mode Display Settings has now been removed as it is no longer necessary.
Also there are catalyst 11.7 preview drivers and hotfix drivers doing the rounds if you google it wether or not the frame sequantial had been added to these drivers is another matter though.
you had me all excited then, but mine had updated after installing and is at 1.1 so no change for me, still no frakin frame sequencial on DVI or DP
no i cant get it working either.
it does work with the iz3d driver but there seems to be a lot of ghosting with that driver which i was the same experiance i had with the iz3d montior a long time ago.
ive noticed when selecting the monitor selction on the amd siote which does show the Samsung monitor it links to these drivers.
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst115ahotfix.aspx
im tempted to roll back my drivers and try these to see what happens.
it does work with the iz3d driver but there seems to be a lot of ghosting with that driver which i was the same experiance i had with the iz3d montior a long time ago.
ive noticed when selecting the monitor selction on the amd siote which does show the Samsung monitor it links to these drivers.
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst115ahotfix.aspx
im tempted to roll back my drivers and try these to see what happens.
im shortly reloading my pc, so im downloading now, as thiese are newer than mine, and have nothing to lose. will let you know shortly
im shortly reloading my pc, so im downloading now, as thiese are newer than mine, and have nothing to lose. will let you know shortly
ok them drivers you linked to crashed my system and wiped my exsisting drivers
very odd, any how had already downloaded 11.6 cats for o/s relaodhttp://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-Catalyst-11.6-Win-7-|-Vista-64-bit-download-2734.html
on these using both DVI and DP i can confirm i can use frame sequential @ 120Hz its playable but on both depth had to be at 5-6 to prevent ghosting but it does work
altoough you still have to select FS in monitor menu, unlike HDMI which it auto detects for
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You must have a defective monitor. The colors and detail really pop on my Samsung and it looks very good next to my HP ZR30W top of the line 30" IPS panel. Are you sure you have the settings set properly? What input are you using?
The input lag on the Samsung is measured at ~12 ms which is right around what the HP ZR30W is tested at. They both feel the same, quite responsive. Anything less than ~16ms (1 frame for 60Hz) is not noticeable and I am a competitive FPS gamer. I don't know how you say it has "noticeable" input lag when that goes against every review/claim about the Samsung so far. If your previous monitor was measured ~7ms, I highly doubt a ~5ms change in input lag is going to be felt. I have been playing tons of games with the Samsung and it is highly responsive. In fact, after owning plenty of 120Hz monitors this is by far my favorite monitor I've ever owned. (I only play 120Hz 2D).
From NCX's review:
If that looks washed out color me pink!
Input lag as low as ~6ms average around ~12ms.
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hi ya, black ops! havent tried F1 2010 yet, will do in morning,
so really the best results 3D wise so far is HDMI! i have not really given gaming 2D 120hz a go yet, i have got fallout 3 to download from steam and try, so might do that tomorrow as well,
