New Star Trek series - 2017

Washout said:
Yeah the beacon light being visible light years away was just incredibly dumb. How does something like that get missed? Or they know and don't care which is just as bad.
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It was the beacon of kahless so maybe all the klingon ships immediately picked it up? It is sci fi so doesn't need that in-depth of an explanation.
 
watched episode 2 yesterday. Soo good i can barely recall any of it. I remember the klingons all looking the same and having difficulty speaking. They all look like a cliched demon type face.

Cant fault the effects and obviously top dollar was spent on this....its just totally forgettable trash atm i'm afraid. And i watch anything scifi (Lexx even). I struggle to find anything interesting about this... i think the bar has been raised for tv series certainly and Trek is nowhere near that level.

Episode 3 is gonna have to be supremely epic for me to get to ep 4.

I mean its not like 20 years ago when the scifi series market there wasnt a lot of competition...now you cant fire a phaser 5 yards without hitting an excellent scifi series.

p.s. ohh yeah the ship phaser fire bullets are garbage...where are the beams? seriously...


edit: just remembered the bit about Sarek transferring his katra to Michael....bwahaha!

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Katra

I keep forgetting its not really Star Trek because everything is basically fair game to be **** on...whats the point of building a legend when you're just going to **** on it anyway?

...ST in in name only.
 
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Gerard said:
It was the beacon of kahless so maybe all the klingon ships immediately picked it up? It is sci fi so doesn't need that in-depth of an explanation.
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Hey, I am all for magic plot devices and technology that smooth over sci-fi storytelling. But they didn't use any. Acording to their science officer and the only information given on the episode it's literally a beacon of light. Light as we are all aware travels at light speed. The beacon was on for mere minutes when Michael contacted Sarek, and the time gap between the beacon being activated and the Klingon houses arriving was no where near enough for the light to have reached anywhere other than the system they were in.

If at any point someone had said "The artifact is emitting a buttload of light, and appears to be sending some form of signal through subspace...", boom superluminal issue solved, reason for the Klingon ships appearing from all corners of the Empire established, and why Sarek already knows about the beacon fixed. But they didn't, its just a big very bright lighthouse.
 
I would assume the ability to scan is much faster than the speed of light, so Vulcan scanning the area would "detect" the light as bright as a star before the light is visible from lightyears away, otherwise real time communication that we have seen through every reincarnation of Star Trek would not be possible.
 
danoliver1 said:
I cant believe I never noticed horny Rikers leg over move before.:p
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Fun fact - he sits like that becuse of a back injury, it's why on the show you always see him leaning on stuff and generally lazing about. They worked it into his character.
 
It's about time they modernised it and moved away from Kirk and Spock and Picard. I just hope it continues to impress.
 
Well I finally got around to watching the first two new episodes, and it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. Visual effects are off the chart great, even with too much JJ lens flare. I quite like the main character (stupid name excepted) as I quite like that "emotional human trying to escape a Vulcan upbringing". It makes her kind of like Seven-of-Nine ie clever in lots of ways, dumb in others. Sure, people were dumb here and there, there were a few plot holes here and there, all other characters turned out to be disposable and disposed of (so no crew characters acting together). The story itself ran along nicely with a certain momentum that didn't really falter. The Klingons were kind of big and clunky, and reminded me too much of the Kilrathi in the not-so-good Wing Commander movie. Their faces had little expression, and even speaking they didn't look that good.

I got the distinct impression that CBS had made the first two episodes, and then decided they didn't like them. There's such a disconnect from the Ep 3 trailer, it's like they changed everything (maybe this was when the original showrunner was booted off and Michelle Yeoh decided to bail). I think you could watch from Ep 3, and not really notice the absence of 1 & 2.

So, they could have done a few things better, but it's not a disaster. They have quite a bit they can improve on, and it's still early days for a Trek show (most of which took at least one or two series to find it's feet). I think they have to walk a very fine line with Discovery. Make it too much like previous Treks, and it will be considered boring and all seen before. Too different, and it's not Trek enough. By concentrating on Michael as the main character, they might get somewhere with that as a new approach, however it's a lot of weight to put on the shoulders of one actor/character. I'm not sure either the character or actress is good enough to pull that off. Even Kirk needed Spock, McCoy, and the rest of the crew, and Michael is no Kirk.
 
JRS said:
For anyone who, like me, was a bit confused about some differences in direction and characterisation going from the 1st to 2nd episodes...that's probably because they were directed and the teleplays written by different people.
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oh is that why episode 1 felt pretty good, and episode 2 was pretty terrible.

Im interested in watching more but in this day and age its gonna have to hit it running hard to stay on the air. maybe Jason Isaacs can ultimately reign this show in.
 
JediFragger said:
Not surprised, apparantly it's costing them $8mill an episode!!!

Thing is, what happens when no bugger subscribes to their streaming service? Hopefully the budget is just reigned in and not outright cancelled.
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The talk is that the $50 mill that Netflix paid for the rights outside of the US has pretty much paid for the series.
 
Re the 'light beacon' issue, don't you people watch trek?
How would any long range comms be even vaguely possible, reverse tachyons of course :)
 
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