New Star Trek series - 2017

Don't know if it's because I don't enjoy the original series, but I didn't really like the latest ep. I don't know who this character is or why he can do all these things. Also letting him just walk at the end seemed really daft given what he had done.
 
Episode 7 was the first episode we really struggled to watch. We ended up skipping through most of it. What are they doing... It is too early for them to be making episodes like this. Have they run out of ideas already that they have to do the time loop thing already??

Also that party seemed so out of place... Felt like turning it off right there. The show is starting to feel like it is aimed for teenagers. Really hope they improve it taking feedback into account for season 2 or this will end up going down as the worst Star Trek TV show ever :(
 
He didn't really have the secrets of the spore drive. he knew some things yes but not actually how it works at all. also when he lost the time crystal he may have forgotten elements from the loop.

I also believe that he isn't getting to live happily ever after, due to running off with her Father's money and in future Stella dies. As noted in ToS.

He did, he had the whole thing worked out, remember he was just waiting for that one missing piece of the puzzle which was Stamets. He had everything, he knew everything. He was just about to sell it to the Klingons. He didn't forget anything, remember the time had returned to normal and he thought the ship was a Klingon ship.
 
Also that party seemed so out of place... Felt like turning it off right there. The show is starting to feel like it is aimed for teenagers. Really hope they improve it taking feedback into account for season 2 or this will end up going down as the worst Star Trek TV show ever :(

Yeah it was cringy and awful. Who listens to 200 year old music?

It was so out of place my mind blotted it out.
 
Yeah it was cringy and awful. Who listens to 200 year old music?

Kirk, James Kirk...

Hang on, wrong franchise...

For those that have seen Trek before the intro music fits, its got clear roots in the TOS era, shame the show itself seems to be missing lots of canon type tie in's as well...
 
Far too soon to bring back Mudd as a baddie, not enough character development to explain why engineer is a bit off the rails with his personality change, considering beanstalk is supposed to be able to sense death not once in the 50+ explosions did he sense death. Only character that seems to be driving the show forwards is the Captain and he's not supposed to be the main character.

The party was the most believable part of that story, although I'm surprised no one was sitting at a table lining up spores to consume.
 
Millions of people. Have you never heard of Beethoven, Mozart, Bach? I could go on.
Yeah you party on down and chug beer to that? You know what I meant don't play the obvious card :p

If that's how the world is going to evolve then I hope the Klingons change history and win....

I think because of sabotage beastie boys, they can be as unoriginal as they want.
 
Yeah you party on down and chug beer to that? You know what I meant don't play the obvious card :p

If that's how the world is going to evolve then I hope the Klingons change history and win....

I think because of sabotage beastie boys, they can be as unoriginal as they want.
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Didn't enjoy that episode at all. Then again I recently tried to watch TNG from Season 1...there are so many dullard episodes that I was close to giving up. Maintaining the quality fans want on ST:Disco for every episode will be close to impossible so episodes like this are to be expected.
 
Yeah, he just walked away and got the girl. Still don't know how you can't see the problem people have with that, especially after killing the Discovery Crew loads of times, stealing the spore drive secrets. I mean he could still sell the secrets of the spore drive to the Klingons.
but he didn't just walk away. He owed the father money after stealing the dowry and also knowing about his later life and that he left her again he didn't just get to walk away.

As for selling the spore drive Secrets. Yes he knows various elements but not enough to put it all together or even how it actually works.
 
Didn't enjoy that episode at all. Then again I recently tried to watch TNG from Season 1...there are so many dullard episodes that I was close to giving up. Maintaining the quality fans want on ST:Disco for every episode will be close to impossible so episodes like this are to be expected.

I don't think that a reasonable excuse. Back in the TNG days they were starting out again with a big syndicated show when expectations were less. No one knew what they were doing, and people thought it would run two or three years max. Times were different, and things have come a long way

Now it's significantly later, we've had several Trek shows, many other SF shows that have raised the bar, so we should be expecting a new Trek thirty years on to be good. We're half a dozen shows in, we should not be excusing poor episodes already.

There's an interesting documentary (you can watch on Youtube) about Gerry Andersons Space 1999. At one point one of the writers is talking about the quality of the scripts, and the constraints of time and money. He says something like "there were poor scripts we should have scrapped, and good scripts we should have spent that money on to make them great scripts". At this point in STD, with all that Netflix money, they should be writing great scripts, or at least good ones, no poor ones at all.
 
but he didn't just walk away. He owed the father money after stealing the dowry and also knowing about his later life and that he left her again he didn't just get to walk away.

That's just walking away. He wasn't punished because the Father wanted his daughter to be happy. You make it sound like the getting married to Stella was a terrible fate. Not only did he just walk away, but, he stole money later from the father and caused more problems for the Federation in the Enterprise.

As for selling the spore drive Secrets. Yes he knows various elements but not enough to put it all together or even how it actually works.

Weren't you watching the episode? He stated several times that he had worked it all out, that all he was missing was one thing. He couldn't figure out that last piece of the puzzle, which was needing a Tardigrade or Stamets. Do you really think he was going get away with trying to sell an incomplete solution to the Klingons? He knew everything about it, remember he looped time until he had it all figured out.
 
There's an interesting documentary (you can watch on Youtube) about Gerry Andersons Space 1999. At one point one of the writers is talking about the quality of the scripts, and the constraints of time and money. He says something like "there were poor scripts we should have scrapped, and good scripts we should have spent that money on to make them great scripts". At this point in STD, with all that Netflix money, they should be writing great scripts, or at least good ones, no poor ones at all.

I really wish they would remake Space 1999.
 
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