New Superman is..
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It's highly likely the film will be poor whether Supe is white or black.
Personally, changing the skin colour of long established characters gets a huge
from me. Just seems so forced and unnecassary.
I made a comment on FB that the next Bond would be a gender fluid Chinese female vegan with one arm and currently identifies as a sofa. Suprised at the number of replies that were not amused.
Personally, changing the skin colour of long established characters gets a huge
from me. Just seems so forced and unnecassary. I made a comment on FB that the next Bond would be a gender fluid Chinese female vegan with one arm and currently identifies as a sofa. Suprised at the number of replies that were not amused.
I actually hope this is real, but that it's another DCEU Multiverse branch, and that they're doing Calvin Ellis rather than Clark Kent. Would be nice to have a different take on the Superman story, rather than another reboot, and another rehashing of the same tale.
Just a hypothetical here, but... The Curse of Superman with Nicolas Cage finally getting his chance to play Supes on the big screen, as the movie's villain.
If they're just casting a black guy as Clark Kent then I've got mixed feelings. If they conducted "colourblind" testing and a black guy was the best fit for the role then fair enough. But I'm less keen if they if the decision was made before casting. And given the rumours about the writer and director attached to the movie, my suspicion is it's the latter...
Just a hypothetical here, but... The Curse of Superman with Nicolas Cage finally getting his chance to play Supes on the big screen, as the movie's villain.
If they're just casting a black guy as Clark Kent then I've got mixed feelings. If they conducted "colourblind" testing and a black guy was the best fit for the role then fair enough. But I'm less keen if they if the decision was made before casting. And given the rumours about the writer and director attached to the movie, my suspicion is it's the latter...
The reports are that they are not using the black superman from an alternative earth, they are race-washing Clark Kent. The aim is to tear down existing characters and educate us to their group-think. They obviously don't think that the black character has value until it takes the place of the white character and rides its coat-tails.
It will fail, because it will be all about woke lecturing. The fact is that Superman/Clark Kent is an iconic character. As soon as you change to some other offshoot or elseworlds character, no one will be interested. They've already proved this in the comics when they went woke, and the likes of Captain Marvel, Ms Marvel, Ironheart, Jane Foster Thor all arrived with great fanfare, and then left very quickly with a whimper and total failure.
Instead of using the great stories of the 80's and 90's, they are skipping over those and going to the stories of the 2000s/2010s when the comic industry went woke and SJWs took over. Those comics simply didn't sell, and have put the comic industry one step away from bankruptcy.
The reports say "Kal-El" (per Hollywood Reporter, the source of the story). No specific mention of Clark Kent. They also say that like 'The Batman', it's taking place outside of the DCEU, so potentially a multiverse situation (see rumours surrounding the Flash movie). There's plenty of scope within the rumours for this to be an alternative version of Superman/Kal-El/Kalel.
Still reeks of tokenism though; "Look how socially aware we are - we're looking to make a Superman movie with a black actor, black director, and black writer! Aren't we amazing?"...
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Don't care as long as the film's good but I imagine there will be a lot of review sites that will be scared stiff of posting genuine reviews if it's a flop. Even if it is good, you'll get people calling reviewers out anyway 
Why can't we just have a film with another Kryptonian (who could be black) as the main character in the existing Superman universe? He could even "save" white superman if needed?
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What would be interesting about a black superman? It's like changing the colour of your character in a game?
Val-Zod is the Earth-2 black superman. He is already a character with a full back story. Kal-El is Clark Kent. By making a black actor Kal-El, they are black washing the iconic character in order to take away a white character and show how woke they are, even though JJ will likely cover him up on the Chinese poster, and Ta-Nahisi coats will write him as a racist, because that's his whole schtick. It all comes down to what Eric July says: the SJW's don't consider a black character to have any value until it becomes tokenized into a white character. It's a continuous bigotry of low expectations, and it's all fake - they just want your money.
Still reeks of tokenism though; "Look how socially aware we are - we're looking to make a Superman movie with a black actor, black director, and black writer! Aren't we amazing?"...
It's all empty virtue-signalling from their multi-million dollar mansions to get your money. Watch them cover it all up to get Chinese audience money.
I know this. But there's also a Superman called "Kalel", who is black. There's a possibility that the new movie features some version of this character, or a mashup of him and Clark Kent. That's the thing about having infinite versions of Earth; there are infinite possibilities.
If the new Superman winds up being a farm boy from Kansas, going by the alias "Clark Kent", then indeed the whole thing will be absolutely moronic. But that hasn't been confirmed (or denied).
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This is like when they made the new Ghostbusters movie all women, pointless box ticking excercise that guaruntees less people will bother with it.
Many black people have a different culture and roots to many white people, as many Asian people have a different culture and roots to many Latino people. All have similarities too.
Did you not like Superman: Red Son?
Agreed, the dude has zero personality as well. Watched him in that recent movie (Prime Video?) and he was aweful.
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but he's a black man from another planet? We'll have to see where his space pod landed and who brought him up when the movie comes out.
Are they going to get Morgan Freeman to be the voice of Durell?
Are they going to get Morgan Freeman to be the voice of Durell?
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Did anyone even care about the Catwoman movie though? Anyone on here seen it?
No, I haven't. But I didn't give a monkey's that Selina Kyle is white in the comics. It just didn't concern me, in fact, I didn't even notice.
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I think it would be due to the fact Catwoman isn't that great of a character and no one gave two hoots, They could fire Brie Larrson and bring in a Black woman...same thing no one cares about those characters.
So you're saying it's about the popularity? I wonder if it would be OK if a white man played the next Black Panther? Black Panther is not as popular as Superman or Batman, but I imagine a lot of people would have something to say.