Newcastle part company with Hughton

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I've got to admit that I haven't been following the form of Newcastle all that closely but this was a bit of a surprise even so, they haven't done all that badly so far given they've only just been promoted. Not enough managerial experience sounds like a load of bobbins, the previous 3 managers (before and excluding Shearer) all had vastly more experience and they didn't do any better.
 
Jol has a history of joining clubs where the board just screw him over after 2 years of good results, so I reckon he will join Newcastle.

Spurs - Overacheived then screwed over by Levy & Co
Hamburg - In the shout for a treble of trophies until just a few games from the end of the season, then screwed over by the board again (sold their good players to man city and van der vaart is now at Spurs - ironically)
Ajax - Qualified for champs league again, probably should have won the league with something like a +90 goal difference and 14+ straight wins, screwed over by the board again selling all the players.
 
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This I find a disgrace. Along with other geordies I think Mike Ashley has out done him self again. Im sure this man loves to be hated. Everything starts to die down in the world of newcastle, steady league position, fans starting to "accept" Ashley again and then BOOM he decides to become number 1 enemy again.

Unfortuantly we have lost one of the best managers we have had for years. He brought back the passion that we had been lacking in the previous seasons and we need a manager that can do that.

Their is only 3 managers that I would like to see at Newcastle that are "realistic" and 2 of them are at premiership clubs.

The first would be Martin O'Neil who could attempt to do a good thing like he did with aston villa. Had limited funds there to work with and managed to good

The second would be Ian holloway. Has done excellent with blackpool this season and has a passion for the game. Got to love his crazy rants aswell :D

The third and last one that would be good for me would be Tony Pulis. He has done a sensation job at stoke and has created stability to make sure they remain a premier league team

Martin Jol is a good manager but he has always had funds to become "successful" and that is something Ashley will not give him!!
 
Patient Keeper said:
Not sure where you got that from when I just posted that the board typically goes ahead and sells his best players rather than buy them :confused:
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But he was given money to get those players in, He overachieved like you said and the big clubs wanted them players and the board sold them. He was always giving the backing before been stabbed in the back
 
J4K3 M said:
The third and last one that would be good for me would be Tony Pulis. He has done a sensation job at stoke and has created stability to make sure they remain a premier league team
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If I supported a team with Andy Carroll in it, and I knew Tony Pulis was going to be our next manager, I think I'd just end my life by the quickest possible means. Would certainly beat going to any more games.
 
This is so sad and completely crazy. It seems like the better you do, the more chance you get the sack, especially at Newcastle.

My team West Ham have got Avram Grant, who isn't doing good at the hammers yet the board decide to back him, even though his previous record at Portsmouth was very bad. Myself and many other fans question his tactics etc etc and we would be more than happy to take Hughton as manager.

I think Newcastle fans should revolt and stay away from the next home match as a protest to Mike Ashley's incredible stupid decision to sack a manager who had and was doing wonders.

As for people saying about Pardew maybe being the next manager.......ARGHHHHHH another case of a manager who has basically nothing in management yet getting rewarded.
 
Nogimmix said:
This is so sad and completely crazy. It seems like the better you do, the more chance you get the sack, especially at Newcastle.

My team West Ham have got Avram Grant, who isn't doing good at the hammers yet the board decide to back him, even though his previous record at Portsmouth was very bad. Myself and many other fans question his tactics etc etc and we would be more than happy to take Hughton as manager.

I think Newcastle fans should revolt and stay away from the next home match as a protest to Mike Ashley's incredible stupid decision to sack a manager who had and was doing wonders.

As for people saying about Pardew maybe being the next manager.......ARGHHHHHH another case of a manager who has basically nothing in management yet getting rewarded.
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Grant took a fairly weak Chelsea side, bought two great players who have proved some of the best value they've bought in years and years, and almost won the league and got to their first champs league final, hardly terrible.

He took over a Pompie that was circa 100mil in debt, sold all its stars, bought in a bunch of loan players and asked him to do magic, he's not a magician and they weren't quite as bad as their points tally suggested.

AT West Ham, he's simply got a squad where EVERYONE was in poor form. Look at Upson in the past 2-3 weeks, he's been absolutely SUPERB, he was absolutely brilliant again Sunderland, intercepting dozens of passes, incredibly strong, he was that good in Zola's first season, then Torres stamped on his ankle, and he hasn't been the same from then, till now. Same can be said for almost every single player in that team.


As for Newcastle, I'm not jumping to judge Ashley, whose been absolutely hated for saving Newcastle from a Pompie type fate(where the debt was similar, maybe worse, the wage bill worse, but look where Pompie are and what chance they have of popping back up). Make no mistake, without Ashley's money, and wage cutting since they'd have sold every first team member when relegated and be sitting bottom of the league all last year.

Maybe Hughton wanted a fairly large wage, or maybe, simply, it was known in owner/management circles that O'neill or Jol, maybe someone else was basically going to be available any day now and it was give Jughton a contract or go with someone better, who knows. Maybe Hughton hates being a manager and much prefered being a coach and didn't want to sign a contract so they decided to get rid of him now rather than later, or maybe they are being idiots, who knows.

I'd also say, when you look at Newcastles wins, good as they were, they are basically all against teams struggling for form, Arsenal/Sunderland/West Ham the latest three, Villa and Everton early in the season. Arsenal were just playing badly at home, all the other 4 teams have MASSIVELY underperformed, Newcastle haven't won in 5, nor looked like winning, while much of the league improves and gets back to form, Everton, Sunderland, West Ham, Everton all looking hugely improved from early season. Newcastle are one of a few teams looking distinctly worse in the league at the moment.

Home form at the moment is 17th worst in the league this year, which really isn't good, if those few wins were fluke(and lets be honest, the Villa/Sunderland/Arsenal games were almost entirely about the other team being that bad) then long term they could easily be looking at relegation with the current way they are playing.
 
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Is 11th such a bad position for a newly promoted side? Madness.

Who they gonna bring in? Keegan? Dowie? Not exactly many good managers out there without a club at the mo.
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Surely Martin O'Neill is the only viable option........ probably would be my choice even if he was with another club.

Better than Jol
 
One of the strangest decisions in many a year I have to say. Have to remember we're talking about Mike Ashley but even still, it just doesn't add up in the real world.

Newcastle came to Old Trafford in their first match back in the top flight and looked pretty dreadful. No fight, no passion, Carroll missed a couple of sitters and the space they gave Scholes over the 90 minutes was criminal. I thought they would be going down after seeing that, I really did. It wasn't the fact they had been beaten by Man Utd, as that's what was expected, but the manner of which they went down suggested a side with very poor players.

Fast forward to now and they've proven not only are they probably going to stay up (unless something disrupting happens - like I dunno, say, sacking a manager doing a decent job) but they've got some pretty good results and possess now a player in Carroll who will get them a decent fee should they wish to cash and strengthen the squad elsewhere.

I just don't see what Hughton has done wrong really. The league is more competitive this year than any other I've watched and whilst they've been inconsistent, their performances overall have been well above my expectations after seeing them in their first game.

Surely most of that squad is Championship standard logically? Why would their current form be any better than what it is?

I'm sure Hughton will get another job in the future. He's done well and it's not his fault he's working for a lunatic.
 
Wow what an utterly retarded decision by Newcastle to get rid of Hughton, who i thhought was doing a pretty damn good job of managing Newcastle. So hes lost/drew a few games but hes done damn well so far....geez he beat Arsenal at the Emirates not too long ago :/

I swear the board at Newcastle have a deathwish or something because unless they get a better manager than Hughton they are going to end up going down...and this time i wont have any sympathy for them...Ashley is a grade A knob tbqh.
 
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