*** Nintendo Switch ***

4k4uNuNu said:
It's been rumoured for almost as long as the Switch has been around, but yes, it does look like a Pro model is coming, though it's worth noting that this isn't going to be a "Switch 2" by all accounts.

I must be one of the very few Switch users who never uses it as a portable device, so I am very keen to see if they can improve docked performance. No doubt all the talk of 4k will be upscaled using nvidia's technology, but if i can just play Breath of the Wild without going into single digit frames in the forest areas, I'll be happy. But then there is the sequel and will probably have to wait years for another console to play that smoothly.

I feel like this Pro model needs to happen whether they want to make it or not. I know Nintendo dances to the beat of their own drum and the sales show they are right to do that, but I feel they are going to get left behind technologically soon as there is a massive shift to 4k/ray traced gaming over the next few years. I understand the portability is a big selling point for the Switch (not for me), but Valve are apparently releasing a new portable device, and i doubt it would take much for Sony to come up with something in the next few years.

Edit - forget to mention Links Awakening remake, that game should not be suffering the kind of slowdown you experience in it, criminal given how simplistic it looks
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I remember when the switch got released and everyone in this forum was banging on the same. Too slow, graphics arent good enough etc etc. Yet it sells like hot cakes, they can bring out 10 year old games and absolutely smash profit on them. If Nintendo knows anything, it's how to cater for the market and make a **** ton of money.

Grim5 said:
Switch Pro will be announced this week, get excite people!

Switch Pro has a larger screen and its OLED, bit more power with 4k upscaling tech to output 4k resolution to TV's via the upgraded dock. What's not clear is if the Dock itself has additional hardware inside it that allows for the upgraded graphics or if it's updated hardware inside the Switch itself. Given that Nintendo has a history of hardware add-ons for it's consoles, I would not be surprised at all if the new Switch itself's internal hardware is just a minor revision of the original to maintain good battery life with the upgraded screen and all the extra performance is from hardware inside the Dock.

The Switch Pro will be priced higher than the base model's $299, however the base model is also gone. Manufacturing for the base model will be turned off in July and stock sold, the Pro replaces the base model, the Switch Lite will continue to be sold
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Nintendo hasn't ever actually made a hardware add-on that boosted power, has it? I mean they've always wanted too, it just never came to anything. So maybe this is their time.
 
Begbie said:
I remember when the switch got released and everyone in this forum was banging on the same. Too slow, graphics arent good enough etc etc. Yet it sells like hot cakes, they can bring out 10 year old games and absolutely smash profit on them. If Nintendo knows anything, it's how to cater for the market and make a **** ton of money.



Nintendo hasn't ever actually made a hardware add-on that boosted power, has it? I mean they've always wanted too, it just never came to anything. So maybe this is their time.
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N64 expansion pack.

Regardless of the pedantic points about what it does hardware wise, it enabled higher frame rates, better draw distances, better textures, and more simultaneous objects.

The Super Gameboy for the SNES also added new graphics and features such as fast forward for Gameboy games.

They generally avoid it though because it fractures the user base which is what killed off Sega.
 
Kreeeee said:
N64 expansion pack.

Regardless of the pedantic points about what it does hardware wise, it enabled higher frame rates, better draw distances, better textures, and more simultaneous objects.

The Super Gameboy for the SNES also added new graphics and features such as fast forward for Gameboy games.

They generally avoid it though because it fractures the user base which is what killed off Sega.
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Oh yeah I forgot about the N64 expansion back. I had the Super Gameboy too, it was pretty awesome.

I honestly don't think well see a switch pro, that has more power etc. Probably an OLED screen, bigger battery but defiently not something that will allow better graphics/games to run on one and not the other.
 
Begbie said:
Oh yeah I forgot about the N64 expansion back. I had the Super Gameboy too, it was pretty awesome.

I honestly don't think well see a switch pro, that has more power etc. Probably an OLED screen, bigger battery but defiently not something that will allow better graphics/games to run on one and not the other.
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The thing is the original Tegra chips aren’t made anymore, so whatever Nintendo use will be substantially more powerful than the current switch. It would be quite an effort to stop a new version having more power.

Nintendo have also bumped the power mid cycle with pretty much every handheld they’ve made. Gameboy Color, DSi, New 3DS, etc.
 
Kreeeee said:
The thing is the original Tegra chips aren’t made anymore, so whatever Nintendo use will be substantially more powerful than the current switch. It would be quite an effort to stop a new version having more power.

Nintendo have also bumped the power mid cycle with pretty much every handheld they’ve made. Gameboy Color, DSi, New 3DS, etc.
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The 3DS comparison is a good one. It's the most recent cycle, was very successful for them and the games that followed we're 'only for 3DS' so Nintendo does have form when it comes a slight fractures of their user base.

Honestly though I think the internal decision would be more like 'we had to choose a new chip now the tegra isn't being made any more, so we bumped everything up while we're at it knowing that the Switch is still selling well and it's less of a risk.' Then I think we'll see something along the lines of an 'Enhanced for Switch Pro' label on new games. Games still working across both but an option to download higher res textures for the pro or to have more stuff on screen at one time.
 
Not sure I would plump up for a Switch Pro unless they start churning out some more new games that I want. Many of their strongest titles are still Wii U and other ports which is sad.
 
RedWarrier said:
Wii U is a better overall console.
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I think many would disagree but Nintendo have basically made the Switch the Wii U mk.2

They are trying to make all the money from anything Wii U related that they didn't make first time around.
 
The ps vita is actually a better console than the switch as a mobile device. The slim version of the vita is excellent - pretty decent battery life, screen which isn't actually all that much worse than the original OLED, light, and very portable. The original switch can never be described as a mobile console in real world useage, it's just too big. The lite is better, but the vita is still just that much better. The ps vita was badly let down by Sony, much like the Dreamcast was by Sega. Both very underrated consoles, and both still must-owns today and probably forever.

I have a feeling the switch pro will be a flop. It's not going to be a mobile device, and I doubt many people are that desperate to play any of the games currently on offer in 4k. Leave that to the PC, or the other consoles.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Can you blame them? Very few Switch owners even saw a Wii U let alone played any games on one.
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True, but most diehard Nintendo fanatics did have a Wii U and the whole mass porting of Wii U games has resulted in a lot of lost loyalty amongst this group. As a home console though, the Wii U isn't bad, and people I know who have bought one second hand within the last 3 years or so can't believe how good it actually is. The UI for one is millions of times better than what's on the switch.
 
RedWarrier said:
I have a feeling the switch pro will be a flop. It's not going to be a mobile device, and I doubt many people are that desperate to play any of the games currently on offer in 4k. Leave that to the PC, or the other consoles.
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Doubt it, plenty of people want to play these Nintendo games on better hardware.
 
malachi said:
Doubt it, plenty of people want to play these Nintendo games on better hardware.
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I don't think the masses do actually, at least that is the impression I am getting from people I speak to. Nintendo titles don't sell because of highres graphics. Look at how popular the DS and 3DS were.

Switch pro sounds cumbersome. It's really only going to be a home console, and I think Nintendo are going to try and sell it and market it primarily to people with a switch lite because they can't play on their TV. A double-sell won't cut it
 
Meh. BoTW sold the Switch to me. The next game will probably be more of the same so a definite buy from me. As for hardware, I'll probably be back when the true next Zelda is out
 
RedWarrier said:
True, but most diehard Nintendo fanatics did have a Wii U and the whole mass porting of Wii U games has resulted in a lot of lost loyalty amongst this group.
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Not to be rude or anything but die hard Nintendo fanatics are not what makes a console successful, the Wii U is case and point. It sold 13 million units with a lower software attach rate, the switch is at over 85 million units with a higher software attach rate. Nintendo sold nearly 3x as many copies of Animal Crossing in 9 months compared to Wii U console sales across its entire lifetime, more than 1 in 3 switch owners own Animal Crossing and Mario Cart which is incredible. 1 in 4 own Zelda, Smash, Mario Odyssey and Pokemon Sword/Shield.

These numbers don't come from hardcore Nintendo fans, its casual gamers/families fuelling these sales. Nintendo don't care about hardcore fans, they just don't matter.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Not to be rude or anything but die hard Nintendo fanatics are not what makes a console successful, the Wii U is case and point. It sold 13 million units with a lower software attach rate, the switch is at over 85 million units with a higher software attach rate. Nintendo sold nearly 3x as many copies of Animal Crossing in 9 months compared to Wii U console sales across its entire lifetime, more than 1 in 3 switch owners own Animal Crossing and Mario Cart which is incredible. 1 in 4 own Zelda, Smash, Mario Odyssey and Pokemon Sword/Shield.

These numbers don't come from hardcore Nintendo fans, its casual gamers/families fuelling these sales. Nintendo don't care about hardcore fans, they just don't matter.
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Not really sure what point you're trying to make? The fact that the switch has been bought on mass by parents for their children doesn't make it better than the Wii U. Loyalty very much plays a part over the longer term, and Nintendo shouldn't complain too much when the masses you talk about lose interest and also have to deal with the fallout of fans that are no longer.

Anyway, to get back on topic, switch pro will not be the success some people think it will. The masses already have a switch, and most parents are not going to be buying their children one when it's actually not going to be significantly better than their current one. In terms of sales numbers, I reckon it will sell even worse than Wii U.
 
Nintendo are heading in the wrong direction. They need to get back to proper handheld systems like the GB series, including GBA. And whilst Nintendo have not really been known for highres, a better 3DS with higher resolution screens would be perfect. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the switch nor switch lite replaced the 3DS as a mobile console. It's actually quite sad that Nintendo don't currently have a true handheld.
 
They will sell a load of Switch Pro consoles. Both to many that already have a Switch and want to play it in better quality and to all those folk who are still interested in the console but had yet to buy. The Pro on its own doesn't have to be hugely successful as it's just an additional console in the Switch family, already have the original and the Lite. Its not like they are launching a totally new console that is reliant on new game sales and different to their existing line up. Look at all the revisions the Gameboy, DS and 3DS had. They all still sold extremely well
 
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