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Evosparki said:
Oh really? You are comparing a leader that has been in power for 6 months compared to someone of 8 years.
umm...... .... "scratches temple"..
ya know?
no? fair enough.
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But yet in 6 mths previous Presidents have managed to get some of their bills passed through;). That's the point people are making with regards to Trump, whereas he is so out of his depth it's not even funny anymore.

You think in a years time or in 4 yrs time, he will get anything passed through ie his election promises?? If he hasn't managed to do it in the 6mths that he has been in office then meh I don't hold out much hope for the future. And no point blaming the Democrats either like Trump supporters are doing at the moment. FFS his party controls both houses lol:p, he has no excuse other than him being a complete and utter idiot.

But look if you Trump supporters want to shove your heads in the sand then please carry on doing so.
 
Amp34 said:
Erm, no.

It looking at what Trump has done (or more precisely failed to do), and the actions and reactions he has shown in the last 8 months.

Everything from his failure to pass the immigration ban multiple times, to his failure to do anything about Obamacare even though the republicans have both houses and presidency amongst others and they've been trying to do it for the last 8 months. Add that to his failure to fill multiple positions within his own cabinet (let alone government departments) and the constant stream of resignations and firings, along with the multitude of his allies that are having to recuse themselves and/or resign due to ongoing investigations by congress and the FBI.

Alongside that the constant rhetoric he spouts live and on twitter when anything difficult comes up. I'm not sure if Trump honestly wants a war to push all the controversies, investigations and failures out of the public consciousness, or whether he really is stupid enough to just be making these statements without actually rationalizing what may happen.

He doesn't have balls and he's not a strong leader. Headstrong, sure, but certainly not strong, either comparatively or just generally.
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What "Trump has done in the last 8 months", then what is that exactly? - compared to any other modern US president?
"his failure to pass the immigration ban multiple times" - what are you getting at here? As a leader he could if he wants to impose martial law, you know - a dictator. Clearly he was elected as the leader of the US, if he is having troubles with imposing new laws then its not his fault? but the congress (parliament, Corbyn in our case?).

At the end of the day Trump is a businessman. An extremely successful businessman at that. Any politician salary would be a an absolute HUGE pay reduction. He doesn't even accept the salary of a president. And yet he does the presidents job knowing he is putting his own families life at risk - of the leftists. Please, seriously, name ANY rich business person who would put their families life at risk like that? So surely - what does that prove to you???? - Surely that is the best of the best thing any nation could have?

Politicians are what? a bunch of jobs worth's that were never needed in the first place if government did their jobs right - you know do a bit of a hard days graft of going out meeting concerned peoples issues instead of sitting in some office, waiting for some Queen or prince to address them some issues going on in the country? Really? Wake the F up will ya???? Do not pull the cotton wull over my eyes I know exactly what jobs worth's local MP's are about.
 
Yas786 said:
But yet in 6 mths previous Presidents have managed to get some of their bills passed through;). That's the point people are making with regards to Trump, whereas he is so out of his depth it's not even funny anymore.

You think in a years time or in 4 yrs time, he will get anything passed through ie his election promises?? If he hasn't managed to do it in the 6mths that he has been in office then meh I don't hold out much hope for the future. And no point blaming the Democrats either like Trump supporters are doing at the moment. FFS his party controls both houses lol:p, he has no excuse other than him being a complete and utter idiot.

But look if you Trump supporters want to shove your heads in the sand then please carry on doing so.
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You really believe that do you? He has been writing off loads of laws. But anyway - ;)
If Trump can not do what he has said, then expect the total electorate to drastically deplete, as that would prove all politicians are the same - ruled by the same ruling class, only the rich and some middle classes will vote. Anyone who disagree with this are drastically, outright utter, utter drastically out of touch with much of the voters of their country - and that is exactly where democracy has failed society and the likes of dictators might as well of rule the government. Do not agree? - LOL keep this space open in 20 years time, especially after year 2070. Lol its been proven time and time again.
 
Amp34 said:
Erm, no.

It looking at what Trump has done (or more precisely failed to do), and the actions and reactions he has shown in the last 8 months.

Everything from his failure to pass the immigration ban multiple times, to his failure to do anything about Obamacare even though the republicans have both houses and presidency amongst others and they've been trying to do it for the last 8 months. Add that to his failure to fill multiple positions within his own cabinet (let alone government departments) and the constant stream of resignations and firings, along with the multitude of his allies that are having to recuse themselves and/or resign due to ongoing investigations by congress and the FBI.

Alongside that the constant rhetoric he spouts live and on twitter when anything difficult comes up. I'm not sure if Trump honestly wants a war to push all the controversies, investigations and failures out of the public consciousness, or whether he really is stupid enough to just be making these statements without actually rationalizing what may happen.

He doesn't have balls and he's not a strong leader. Headstrong, sure, but certainly not strong, either comparatively or just generally.
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If you really, really believe that, then you might as well vote for anything and anyone in the future as it will mean absolutely nothing compared to the other vote.
The working classes don't have a leg to stand on.
The working classes are ALL, absolutely ALL!!!!! about trying to making money from money.
When you middle and rich classes want a war winning, I absolutely and utter hope that the soldiers of their country will realise what an absolute bunch of greedy ********* you lot are.
 
PiKe said:
Because Sellafield wouldn't be a target?

If you're looking to cripple a country, you'd hit the power stations surely?
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In the case of NK worst case they have 60x 20kt devices most of which would be used against US targets maybe they'd chuck 1-2 at London. In the case of global thermonuclear war it won't matter much where you are in the UK.
 
Evosparki said:
What "Trump has done in the last 8 months", then what is that exactly? - compared to any other modern US president?
"his failure to pass the immigration ban multiple times" - what are you getting at here? As a leader he could if he wants to impose martial law, you know - a dictator. Clearly he was elected as the leader of the US, if he is having troubles with imposing new laws then its not his fault? but the congress (parliament, Corbyn in our case?).

At the end of the day Trump is a businessman. An extremely successful businessman at that. Any politician salary would be a an absolute HUGE pay reduction. He doesn't even accept the salary of a president. And yet he does the presidents job knowing he is putting his own families life at risk - of the leftists. Please, seriously, name ANY rich business person who would put their families life at risk like that? So surely - what does that prove to you???? - Surely that is the best of the best thing any nation could have?

Politicians are what? a bunch of jobs worth's that were never needed in the first place if government did their jobs right - you know do a bit of a hard days graft of going out meeting concerned peoples issues instead of sitting in some office, waiting for some Queen or prince to address them some issues going on in the country? Really? Wake the F up will ya???? Do not pull the cotton wull over my eyes I know exactly what jobs worth's local MP's are about.
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What he's done that other presidents haven't? As already mentioned in part, generally a president doesn't lose major cases against executive orders within a few months of becoming president, have the lowest approval record in modern history, have various criminal investigations hanging over him and several of his senior staff. That's just a few, alongside those already mentioned.

And no, I don't expect a leader to push through illegal legislation, however I do expect them and their staff to understand the law, which is the biggest issue with Trump...

A strong president shouldn't have too much issue "imposing" laws, because a strong president works with the rest of the legislature and gets things passed. Something Trump has failed to do multiple times in the only 8 months.

So far the only thing Trump has "excelled" at is lying. The most untruthful president in history, although it's questionable if he's actually any good at it because he is consistently found out. If you're going to lie, at least be good at it!;)

Honestly you'll find many people will have newfound respect for what politicians do because of Trump. He just goes to show it really isn't as easy as some people like to make out, at least to be good at it anyway...

Evosparki said:
If you really, really believe that, then you might as well vote for anything and anyone in the future as it will mean absolutely nothing compared to the other vote.
The working classes don't have a leg to stand on.
The working classes are ALL, absolutely ALL!!!!! about trying to making money from money.
When you middle and rich classes want a war winning, I absolutely and utter hope that the soldiers of their country will realise what an absolute bunch of greedy ********* you lot are.
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I'm sorry, what?
 
Does anyone speak gibberish? I need something translating

Evosparki said:
You really believe that do you? He has been writing off loads of laws. But anyway - ;)
If Trump can not do what he has said, then expect the total electorate to drastically deplete, as that would prove all politicians are the same - ruled by the same ruling class, only the rich and some middle classes will vote. Anyone who disagree with this are drastically, outright utter, utter drastically out of touch with much of the voters of their country - and that is exactly where democracy has failed society and the likes of dictators might as well of rule the government. Do not agree? - LOL keep this space open in 20 years time, especially after year 2070. Lol its been proven time and time again.
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Amp34 said:
What he's done that other presidents haven't? As already mentioned in part, generally a president doesn't lose major cases against executive orders within a few months of becoming president, have the lowest approval record in modern history, have various criminal investigations hanging over him and several of his senior staff. That's just a few, alongside those already mentioned.

And no, I don't expect a leader to push through illegal legislation, however I do expect them and their staff to understand the law, which is the biggest issue with Trump...

A strong president shouldn't have too much issue "imposing" laws, because a strong president works with the rest of the legislature and gets things passed. Something Trump has failed to do multiple times in the only 8 months.

So far the only thing Trump has "excelled" at is lying. The most untruthful president in history, although it's questionable if he's actually any good at it because he is consistently found out. If you're going to lie, at least be good at it!;)

Honestly you'll find many people will have newfound respect for what politicians do because of Trump. He just goes to show it really isn't as easy as some people like to make out, at least to be good at it anyway...

I'm sorry, what?
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If you really believe that, then we are all screwed.
The democratically voting system was at its lowest since foreever until the Brexit/Trump elections.

THIS is the last stand for politics. Say goodbye to democracy for the most part. Some people already complained about too many people were not voting, well they ain't seen nothing yet. If Trump is out, just bring on the dictatorship because politicians are the biggest jobs worth's ever.

In a couple or few decades from now you SJW's just compare then to now. Especially from year 2070, I'd stake my house on it, 10-fold.
 
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