Nurse arrested for murdering babies

It's kind of the risk you take when you commit a crime, that you will shame your family/friends and this probably helps prevent a lot crime that would otherwise happen.
 
Just watching the Panorama on this.

Can't believe, that the 7x paediatricians had managed to successfully have her removed from the neonatal unit, only for her to raise a grievance against them - forcing them to apologise to her in writing.
 
Screeeech said:
Just watching the Panorama on this.

Can't believe, that the 7x paediatricians had managed to successfully have her removed from the neonatal unit, only for her to raise a grievance against them - forcing them to apologise to her in writing.
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Do you think her parents knew about this? Seems highly likely she would have discussed it with them.
 
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neocon said:
Do you think her parents knew about this? Seems highly likely she would have discussed it with them.
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No idea, I just know where things like grievances are involved, that stuff is super confidential, but I have no idea.

I just found it incredible.
 
Screeeech said:
Just watching the Panorama on this.

Can't believe, that the 7x paediatricians had managed to successfully have her removed from the neonatal unit, only for her to raise a grievance against them - forcing them to apologise to her in writing.
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Honestly, if this was part of the script in a TV film about these murders, I'd be thinking what crummy writing.

And yet it happened in real life.

Unbelievable.
 
When the possibility exists that an innocent person might be sentenced, a death penalty is unacceptable. And you can't only sentence people who were recorded committing the crime. Ergo a death penalty is always unacceptable. At least, in a civilised society...

And that is all that can be said on the subject...

Now then, I will be interested to hear what additional evidence came to light during proceedings. I wonder if we will ever hear anything of the sort.
 
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Acme said:
Now then, I will be interested to hear what additional evidence came to light during proceedings. I wonder if we will ever hear anything of the sort.
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I think the insulin evidence was probably the biggest for me, when the body produces insulin it also produces something called peptide-c in a similar amount, ergo: if you produce insulin, you get the same amount of peptide-c detectable in the body.

In the blood toxicology reports for one of the first murder victims, they found a large amount of insulin (enough to poison) but no peptide-c, so the insulin was injected. Unfortunately, it was apparently missed on the first pass by a junior doctor, and was seen later by the senior consultant.

The only missing piece was that nobody actually saw her inject it, but I think the other circumstantial evidence combined with that - was enough to convince the police that a crime had been committed.
 

Quite long but quite thorough. Really weird how she still denies being guilty and there's no clue as to the why still.
 
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The only missing piece was that nobody actually saw her inject it, but I think the other circumstantial evidence combined with that - was enough to convince the police that a crime had been committed.
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It was obvious to the police after all that's their job, for the consultants they're smart enough to have picked up on it too... Sadly the NHS bureaucrats/management are a bunch of midwits.
 
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And I think that evidence should be released, nothing I read about this case suggested they had hard proof she did this, it was all circumstantial.
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This is a fallacy circumstantial evidence is a thing you do not need CCTV evidence of someone being murdered to convict a killer

BowdonUK said:
Apparently doctors were told off for keep reporting her!
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They were told to drop it or face serious consequences, they even forced them to issue grovelling apologies to Letby's face! This is what I find unbelievable I bet they'll get off scot free too apparently when the police were finally brought in they thought there was a case immediately despite all the denials by the managers.
 
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Jesus.
I hope she actually confesses and gives her motive for the sake of humanity.
I'm really not sure what else can be said.
Hospital procedures need review.
There's nutjobs everywhere.
 
The managers are a disgrace! To tell doctors and other medical staff to stop reporting info of Letby’s actions is pathetic. As this was 7-8 years ago, I doubt those managers are still working in the same hospital. Some probably have retired with a massive pension.

Any managers who are still working for the NHS - doesn’t matter if in a different hospital. They should be sacked and stripped of their NHS pension!
 
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