Nurse arrested for murdering babies

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@Dialup
I read an absolute load on the Joanna Yeates case last night but can't see where her family or friends got hurt by the media or vigilantes.
Can you link to what you're on about please?

 

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Innocent until proven guilty.

Edit - misunderstood.

 

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Management ignored it all and retired on a pot of millions. More people need to be brought in front of the judge methinks.

I don't think I've ever seen management taken to task over these failings. The Bawa Garba case showed how senior clinicians and the Trust were quite happy to shrug off responsibility and have no consequences.

The CEO that presided over this (including hampering the investigation/threatening the doctors), eventually got booted out after a vote of no confidence and has held several CEO posts after.

 

[Jokester]

I don't think I've ever seen management taken to task over these failings. The Bawa Garba case showed how senior clinicians and the Trust were quite happy to shrug off responsibility and have no consequences.

The CEO that presided over this (including hampering the investigation/threatening the doctors), eventually got booted out after a vote of no confidence and has held several CEO posts after.

Yeah, there's a scandal up here at the moment over hospital deaths in the new Glasgow Queen Elizabeth hospital (seemingly shoddy construction/design is resulting in a host of issues that are threatening to health). In response to critiscm from families the hospital board paid to have bereaved families and campaigners and even MSPs monitored. Seems to be a policy of smear by branding comments against the hospital as misinformation and the like.

NHS admits to using taxpayers' money to SPY on dead patient's widow

Louise Slorance (pictured) is leading a campaign to find answers regarding a catalogue of deaths at Glasgow's Queen Elizabeth University Hospital, including that of her late husband Andrew.

www.dailymail.co.uk

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde accused of spying on MSPs and members of staff

Taxpayers cash spent on ‘social listening’

www.scotsman.com

As far as I'm aware, nobody has been held to account for this.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Stafford Hospital was such a scandal that the North Staffs/City General in Stoke took over the running of it and we spent millions changing everything to get rid of the Staffordshire name in any of them so now known as County Hospital and Royal Stoke University Hospital.

 

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Yeah, there's a scandal up here at the moment over hospital deaths in the new Glasgow Queen Elizabeth hospital (seemingly shoddy construction/design is resulting in a host of issues that are threatening to health). In response to critiscm from families the hospital board paid to have bereaved families and campaigners and even MSPs monitored. Seems to be a policy of smear by branding comments against the hospital as misinformation and the like.

NHS admits to using taxpayers' money to SPY on dead patient's widow

Louise Slorance (pictured) is leading a campaign to find answers regarding a catalogue of deaths at Glasgow's Queen Elizabeth University Hospital, including that of her late husband Andrew.

www.dailymail.co.uk

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde accused of spying on MSPs and members of staff

Taxpayers cash spent on ‘social listening’

www.scotsman.com

As far as I'm aware, nobody has been held to account for this.

Mental.

 

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@Dialup
I read an absolute load on the Joanna Yeates case last night but can't see where her family or friends got hurt by the media or vigilantes.
Can you link to what you're on about please?

Christopher Jefferies​

was accused of murdering her by the media and they concocted lies to make out he was weird, a child rapist and a paeodophile. His identity should never have been released as he was never convicted of any crime. Do you think what the media did was justified? That is what they are currently doing to Letby's friends and relatives, colleagues etc. They are implying that they are guilty of a crime even though they've not done anything.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Christopher Jefferies​

was accused of murdering her by the media and they concocted lies to make out he was weird, a child rapist and a paeodophile. His identity should never have been released as he was never convicted of any crime. Do you think what the media did was justified? That is what they are currently doing to Letby's friends and relatives, colleagues etc. They are implying that they are guilty of a crime even though they've not done anything.

Remember that well, that was awful and he never recovered from it.
However that was nothing to do with releasing the murderers name, that was totally to do with the Media hunting him down because he was questioned about it and looked weird, shocking behaviour by the Press.
Yes totally agree if you get taken in and questioned your name should be left out of it until you're charged.
This was nothing to do with a murderers family & friends being held accountable though.

 

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Remember that well, that was awful and he never recovered from it.
However that was nothing to do with releasing the murderers name, that was totally to do with the Media hunting him down because he was questioned about it and looked weird, shocking behaviour by the Press.
Yes totally agree if you get taken in and questioned your name should be left out of it until you're charged.
This was nothing to do with a murderers family & friends being held accountable though.

Being held accountable for what? They haven't committed a crime. Knowing a murderer doesn't make you a criminal.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Being held accountable for what? They haven't committed a crime. Knowing a murderer doesn't make you a criminal.

You are the one claiming that innocent friends and family are being held accountable for what a murderer has done, have you forgot what you're on about

You have given an example of a bloke that wasn't a friend or family, he was just taken in for questioning and it was awful.

 

[bingham67]

The medical evidence that finally caught Lucy Letby

The case against nurse Lucy Letby - who was today found guilty at Manchester Crown Court - hinged on the medical evidence.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

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You are the one claiming that innocent friends and family are being held accountable for what a murderer has done, have you forgot what you're on about

You have given an example of a bloke that wasn't a friend or family, he was just taken in for questioning and it was awful.

They are, have you been on the Daily Mail site today?

 

[SexyGreyFox]

They are, have you been on the Daily Mail site today?

Jesus Christ on a bike, do you actually read before you post

1) You claim friends and family will get hurt by releasing the killers name
2) You cite a case where a bloke was questioned and he was hunted down by media & idiots
3) I said this case was nothing to do with friends & family getting hurt so very bad example
4) And then you amazingly said "Being held accountable for what? They haven't committed a crime. Knowing a murderer doesn't make you a criminal.".
5) Yes I know, you are the one claiming it.

Keep up Dialup

Now perhaps you can link to the Daily Mail articles where they are hurting family and friends?
Her Mother needs to get a reality check.

 

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Keep up Dialup

Maybe he should upgrade his username to Fibre.

 

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Maybe he should upgrade his username to Fibre.

I was called Gigabit.

 

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Jesus Christ on a bike, do you actually read before you post

1) You claim friends and family will get hurt by releasing the killers name
2) You cite a case where a bloke was questioned and he was hunted down by media & idiots
3) I said this case was nothing to do with friends & family getting hurt so very bad example
4) And then you amazingly said "Being held accountable for what? They haven't committed a crime. Knowing a murderer doesn't make you a criminal.".
5) Yes I know, you are the one claiming it.

Keep up Dialup

I am lost with you.

The media are currently going after her friends and family. Literally go on Daily Mail now and you'll see what they are doing.

 

[C Kent]

But they already are. The doctor she was "friends" with is having his name dredged through the mud at the moment.

Her family are already being vilified in the press.

The media are currently going after her friends and family. Literally go on Daily Mail now and you'll see what they are doing.

So you have zero proof they are going after her friends and family then. If its that easy surely you can link a few articles where her family is being vilified in the press.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

So you have zero proof they are going after her friends and family then. If its that easy surely you can link a few articles where her family is being vilified in the press.

I tried to search for friends and family being vilified but DM hangs my computer.

His last example of friends and family being vilified was actually a suspect who was treated very badly by the media so not friends and family.

 

[dowie]

Excuse me? What is that suppose to mean? This case has had very little details released. I do not trust the CPS, no definitive evidence as far as I know showed this women killing these babies, we all know the NHS is in a terrible state right now, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together.

The CPS would have wanted a conviction on this, I am not saying it's the wrong verdict. I just want to know the fact of the case and as of now, the public know sweet FA

Someone was killing and injuring babies on the ward, she was there for every death and all the additional incidents where some baby nearly died unexpectedly, no one else could have been responsible.

She also basically confessed to it in some insane handwritten notes.

Management ignored it all and retired on a pot of millions. More people need to be brought in front of the judge methinks.

Innocent until proven guilty.

@Dialup what do you think being brought up before a judge involves? That's the default position in our courts!

She absolutely should have been given anonymity.

No, anonymity is generally not given to people accused of crimes (and certainly not to people convicted are crimes), the justice system is supposed to be open, secret courts are very iffy in a democracy for what ought to be obvious reasons. Reasons for anonymity might apply temporarily though for example if the accused or convicted also has a further trial in the future and they don't want to prejudice it.

 

[Roar87]

I am lost with you.

The media are currently going after her friends and family. Literally go on Daily Mail now and you'll see what they are doing.

Lucy Letby's mother collapsed in tears when her daughter was convicted

A source told the Mail that Letby's mother was distraught when she was arrested in 2018 - wailing, crying and even telling police, 'I did it, take me instead,' in a desperate bid to protect her.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Nothing suggests Mr and Mrs Letby were anything but caring parents who showered their daughter with love from the moment she was born - five months after they married in July 1989.

I suppose it is the weekend, if you want to drink and post that's your business