Me too. Current Steamdeck doesn't just quite cut it for me, but an updated version 2-3 years from now from Valve or another partner (AYA? Razor? Corsair? Dell? etc.) on 3nm with around 50% better performance and battery life would suit me perfectly.
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Me too. Current Steamdeck doesn't just quite cut it for me, but an updated version 2-3 years from now from Valve or another partner (AYA? Razor? Corsair? Dell? etc.) on 3nm with around 50% better performance and battery life would suit me perfectly.
It already is, by we customers. You don't have to buy them.
And really, for most people the power usage is absolutely trivial. Most people don't game all day every day or even for many hours every day. Those who do are a minority. The only people for whom power usage is really a concern are miners.
But miners wont be issue if the Point of Stake happens, the only reason I can see why the power usage is more is the higher performance expectation especially if the rumours that the 4070 is equiv to a 3090. It comes at a cost which is higher consumption.
Caporegime
I’m getting more and more tempted to pick up a used 3080ti if the prices keep dropping as I’ve no interest in a 4080 if it’s anywhere near a grand.
The only concern is that RT and the likes of DLDSR and DLSS will likely be much better on the 4 series as we know the driver tuning will shift to the new series.
The only concern is that RT and the likes of DLDSR and DLSS will likely be much better on the 4 series as we know the driver tuning will shift to the new series.
Wonder how close to launch they changed their mind.
Power-hogs are a no, but I don't actually mind over-engineered coolers and PCBs. Well within reason, they do need to fit in my case after all.
I am intrigued in Raytracing but i think we are still far away from a good performing card at 60fps, like myself I only game at 1440p and most games I've seen on RT you can get stable frames at around 40-60fps. Plus with FSR 2.0 which is improving on every update I hope game developers move away from Raytracing and have their own way of reflections that are a lot more optimised.
I'm tempted on the 3080TI when prices are more reasonable, my 5700XT is holding pretty strong as most games handle pretty well.
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But its not all about miners, you build a high end system, you spend a lot of money and time over clocking the CPU to get a stable over clock. its water cooled with the rads and fans cooling it. GPU could well be at idle while surfing but you don't reduce your stable 24/7 over clock to surf, makes no sense to keep going into the bios to do so.
a big PSU to power it all when you do game, even if only an hour a day and the rest of the time reading forums or driver update's. I had this system, some times i never gamed for days even weeks. 5950X overclocked, 3090 dual 480 rads, push and pull fans a great system but power efficient it was not.
Today a Mac mini 6 core, dual thunderbolt drives on one TB chip with EGPu on the other, one TB drive with win 11 the other OSX Monterey. DVI out for surfing, EGPu for gaming in windows. when surfing DVI out efficient little mac mini EGPu switched off. When doing video editing i will
switch on my Mac pro. 16 core 96g ram perfect, also with windows in bootcamp again i can game if i want via that. but mostly its for my work with video. surfing its Mac mini DVI out. power use efficient for what i am doing at that time.
Its not even about hardware cost, as we know Apple charge a lot, its about being efficient and not wasting power just because you can afford it. my children and my gran children will pick up the cost after most of us are dead in the environment they have to live with.
a big PSU to power it all when you do game, even if only an hour a day and the rest of the time reading forums or driver update's. I had this system, some times i never gamed for days even weeks. 5950X overclocked, 3090 dual 480 rads, push and pull fans a great system but power efficient it was not.
Today a Mac mini 6 core, dual thunderbolt drives on one TB chip with EGPu on the other, one TB drive with win 11 the other OSX Monterey. DVI out for surfing, EGPu for gaming in windows. when surfing DVI out efficient little mac mini EGPu switched off. When doing video editing i will
switch on my Mac pro. 16 core 96g ram perfect, also with windows in bootcamp again i can game if i want via that. but mostly its for my work with video. surfing its Mac mini DVI out. power use efficient for what i am doing at that time.
Its not even about hardware cost, as we know Apple charge a lot, its about being efficient and not wasting power just because you can afford it. my children and my gran children will pick up the cost after most of us are dead in the environment they have to live with.
for most gamers a system like that is really OTT. Currently you can just get a 5800x 3d + undervolted 3080/3090 and have a really good system which runs with air cooling and under clocks when not doing anything. It'll sip power just in the desktop
Me. The 4070/80 will be what, 100-150w or so more than what I use now? And when will that extra power be needed? In a handful of latest RT games.
Unless you are one to never set fps limit on games and happy to see 200-300fps on older games or only play new ones then it should be alright
Yea, I actually could probably get away with skipping a gen. But I do fancy something new. It is more that then anything else at the moment
Yea, I actually could probably get away with skipping a gen. But I do fancy something new. It is more that then anything else at the moment
I normally do upgrade cycles every 2 - 3 years, 2020 was my last upgrade but i am hoping the 3080TI or Equivalent will hold out longer as GTA IV wont be until at least 2024
Soldato
For enthusiasts on here its not an issue as most people know how to undervolt/overclock. nVidia will do it for the average person that just turns on an games. Most of the lineup will be able to push typically if you want to thrash out the power potential (especially AIB flavours).
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VR is a demanding and cruel mistress 
Unless of course you're in the Techonomics pod cast with:
- NAAF seeing a legacy quest HMD as being fine for PC VR
- Chris good ole gamer who's thinking is high quality VR is only people that watch porn and can therefore be ignored
gg
Unless of course you're in the Techonomics pod cast with:
- NAAF seeing a legacy quest HMD as being fine for PC VR
- Chris good ole gamer who's thinking is high quality VR is only people that watch porn and can therefore be ignored
gg
Soldato
Don't you already have a 3080? That's more than enough for most if not all games coming out between now and 2 years timeMe. The 4070/80 will be what, 100-150w or so more than what I use now? And when will that extra power be needed? In a handful of latest RT games.
Unless you are one to never set fps limit on games and happy to see 200-300fps on older games or only play new ones then it should be alright
Soldato
Some useful info from the earnings call:
Makes sense that the 4090 is first then.
So presumably we can expect 3000 series products to be on sale for at least another 6 months say.Jensen said:
So they'll also be reduced/ing in price.Jensen said:
New stuff is coming and will be positioned/priced above the current (reduced price) products. That means there will be some overlap and thus we should see them within the next six months (no surprise, but nice to have confirmation they're going to have both available at the same time rather than waiting for zero inventory).Jensen said:
Makes sense that the 4090 is first then.
Yes, except if they staying with the 3080 then the 10GB thing might become an issue!
AKA, don't listen to serial upgraders when deciding how much VRAM is enough!
Soldato
More speculation that it`ll now be flood in september - cards at msrp ofc
So how did they get through the whole earning calls without any heavy questioning about how exposed they were to mining despite the last few quarters saying they weren't. Can we expect some more shareholder lawsuits?
Nope. Had that and sold it to CEX for £1620
See my sig, got a 3070 which has been fine for me thus far. But I always get a new GPU every gen