NVIDIA 4000 Series

Alan McFall · 28 Aug 2022 at 22:10

Amatsubu said:
So, if the 4000 series even launches in 2022, we're most likely only getting the 4090 with the rest following in Q1 2023? Have been out of the loop lately.

They have announced an announcement for 19th Sept, if that's the launch then were likely looking at 5th/12th Oct release for 4090.. so likely get the 4080 in Dec, uless they release them together. God knows how supply is going to be.

Twinz · 28 Aug 2022 at 22:13

Purgatory said:
People keep forgetting the scalpers will be in full force and that's going to be the main problem if supplies are in short supply, we have yet to see how the supply will be and if it is not keeping up with demand then expect scalpers to be out to rip you off.

The scalpers *tried* to scalp the 5800X3D. That worked for about a week, maybe two. If these cards can't print money like Ampere did at launch, scalpers who expect pixel-pushers to sell like money-printers will be in for a rude awakening.

Richdog · 29 Aug 2022 at 04:26

kalniel said:
No reason to think that. 4090 first looks likely, but nothing saying that's the only one in 2022.

To write that there's "no reason" is inaccurate. There are rumours are that Nvidia may delay the 4080/4070 releases to 2023 to shift 3000 inventory. https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidi...090-only-40-series-gpu-to-land-in-2022-rumor/

harmattan · 29 Aug 2022 at 08:26

Richdog said:
To write that there's "no reason" is inaccurate. There are rumours are that Nvidia may delay the 4080/4070 releases to 2023 to shift 3000 inventory. https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidi...090-only-40-series-gpu-to-land-in-2022-rumor/

No doubt the bulk of the line up will be released i.e. when the cards are available in early 2023. At most, the 4090 Flounders may become available in small quantities (so they sell out quickly, feigning strong demand) in November. That said, the soft launch (announcement and marketing push) will start next month.

Nexus18 · 29 Aug 2022 at 08:46

TNA said:
Yep. Though this time there won't be as much demand and supply will catch up much quicker. I am happy to wait until the summer as that is the earliest games that will need the extra grunt over what I got which I am interested in playing will be coming out.

I will just patiently wait and grab one MSRP

Same, I'm in no rush atm for the same reasons, that and the 3080 is still smashing it at both 3440x1440 and 4k.

Amatsubu · 29 Aug 2022 at 09:07

Yeah, I'd be in no rush with a 3080 either

Thankfully, most of the games in my backlog are older titles and the newer ones that don't run that well I just put on hold, like Cyberpunk and DL2 so that I could experience them with RT when I finally upgrade.

AthlonXP1800 · 29 Aug 2022 at 10:32

Leaker claims two GeForce RTX 4070 specifications are now being considered - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA has not made a final decision on RTX 4070 specs yet According to Kopite7kimi, NVIDIA is now considering two possible specifications for its RTX 4070 graphics card. One step forward, one step back. Initial rumors claimed RTX 4070 will launch with 10 GB and 160-bit GDDR6 memory...

videocardz.com

RTX 4070 Ti probably will have 192 bit memory bus and 12GB GDDR6X, performance will be at RTX 3090 Ti level while RTX 4070 probably will have 160 bit memory bus and 10GB GDDR6X, performance will be at RTX 3090 level.

TNA · 29 Aug 2022 at 10:46

AthlonXP1800 said:
Leaker claims two GeForce RTX 4070 specifications are now being considered - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA has not made a final decision on RTX 4070 specs yet According to Kopite7kimi, NVIDIA is now considering two possible specifications for its RTX 4070 graphics card. One step forward, one step back. Initial rumors claimed RTX 4070 will launch with 10 GB and 160-bit GDDR6 memory...

videocardz.com

RTX 4070 Ti probably will have 192 bit memory bus and 12GB GDDR6X, performance will be at RTX 3090 Ti level while RTX 4070 probably will have 160 bit memory bus and 10GB GDDR6X, performance will be at RTX 3090 level.

Sounds good to me. What makes it a good or bad GPU will depend on price

Nexus18 · 29 Aug 2022 at 11:00

TNA said:
Sounds good to me. What makes it a good or bad GPU will depend on price

inb4 "intentionally gimped/hamstrung with 10gb vram" comments

It's what I have been expecting all along where a 4070 will match/beat 3090 "overall", as you said, the key is pricing, needs to be less than £600 imo, having said that, nvidia could still sell it for up to £800 and market it as being a 3090 competitor for £600 less.

chroniclard · 29 Aug 2022 at 11:04

4070 level should be about £400 max but it won't be.

Nexus18 · 29 Aug 2022 at 11:08

chroniclard said:
4070 level should be about £400 max but it won't be.

With inflation affecting every single thing, not a chance.

gpuerrilla · 29 Aug 2022 at 11:10

I can see the Ti's being really strong but generally they lag months after the original lineup.

TNA · 29 Aug 2022 at 12:13

Nexus18 said:
inb4 "intentionally gimped/hamstrung with 10gb vram" comments

It's what I have been expecting all along where a 4070 will match/beat 3090 "overall", as you said, the key is pricing, needs to be less than £600 imo, having said that, nvidia could still sell it for up to £800 and market it as being a 3090 competitor for £600 less.

If they try and price the 4070 or even the 4070 Ti for £800 then they can keep it. No chance I would pay that.

Nexus18 said:
With inflation affecting every single thing, not a chance.

Also agree there is almost zero chance of it being £400. I am guessing £500-£600 because of our current weak arse currency.

chroniclard · 29 Aug 2022 at 12:14

Nexus18 said:
With inflation affecting every single thing, not a chance.

Even without inflation, no chance. :cry:

AthlonXP1800 · 29 Aug 2022 at 12:20

chroniclard said:
4070 level should be about £400 max but it won't be.

No, no way RTX 4070 should be about £400 max.

RTX 3070 was launched back in 1 Sept 2020 at about £399 min, that was the price for cheapest card when US Dollar was stronger traded at $1.33641. Custom RTX 3070 cards was priced about £499. US Dollar is now weaker current trade at $1.16899 today.

So RTX 4070 start price should be about £450 minimum if Liz Truss will be next PM, she will plan to cut 20% VAT down to 10% in September.

chroniclard · 29 Aug 2022 at 13:08

AthlonXP1800 said:
No, no way RTX 4070 should be about £400 max.

RTX 3070 was launched back in 1 Sept 2020 at about £399 min, that was the price for cheapest card when US Dollar was stronger traded at $1.33641. Custom RTX 3070 cards was priced about £499. US Dollar is now weaker current trade at $1.16899 today.

So RTX 4070 start price should be about £450 minimum if Liz Truss will be next PM, she will plan to cut 20% VAT down to 10% in September.

It really should be.

Raelgun · 29 Aug 2022 at 13:18

AthlonXP1800 said:
No, no way RTX 4070 should be about £400 max.

RTX 3070 was launched back in 1 Sept 2020 at about £399 min, that was the price for cheapest card when US Dollar was stronger traded at $1.33641. Custom RTX 3070 cards was priced about £499. US Dollar is now weaker current trade at $1.16899 today.

So RTX 4070 start price should be about £450 minimum if Liz Truss will be next PM, she will plan to cut 20% VAT down to 10% in September.

Do you really think retailers are gonna sell products 10% lower or just mark up another 10%?

chroniclard · 29 Aug 2022 at 13:30

All hail our saviour Liz, countries going to **** but we.could save £50 on a GPU. :cool:

arknor · 29 Aug 2022 at 13:54

Raelgun said:
Do you really think retailers are gonna sell products 10% lower or just mark up another 10%?

you mean hold prices and take the vat cut themselves.

ofcourse they will and liz knows it, VAT cut will be to help out the elite tory donors not the average person

Alan McFall · 29 Aug 2022 at 14:27

AthlonXP1800 said:
if Liz Truss will be next PM, she will plan to cut 20% VAT down to 10% in September.

You missed the small print "for people earning over 100K"..