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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Could Nvidia have set RTX 4000 series cards pricing so high because they expected an AI Boom and were not pricing Gaming cards for actual Gamers but for AI developers, who would pay the high prices?

Are RTX GPUs now just entry level AI GPUs?
 
Could Nvidia have set RTX 4000 series cards pricing so high because they expected an AI Boom and were not pricing Gaming cards for actual Gamers but for AI developers, who would pay the high prices?

Are RTX GPUs now just entry level AI GPUs?

Or Nvidia marketing is trying to spin that line through social media and the tech media,to justify Pandemic level pricing as normalised.
 
Or Nvidia marketing is trying to spin that line through social media and the tech media,to justify Pandemic level pricing as normalised.

I don't think so. Isn't the configuration of cores very different in cards targetted to AI?

Could explain there reluctance to lower prices despite bad sales and those desperate for AI GPUs may buy anything. The 4090 and 4080 are rated for AI and Deep Learning.
 
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Could explain there reluctance to lower prices despite bad sales and those desperate for AI GPUs amy buy anything. The 4090 and 4080 are rated for AI and Deep Learning.

We saw what happening after the 2018 mining boom. We got Turing. It was VFX back then(the $250 billion market) which was used as justification for the stagnant price/performance. Even if the chips were so expensive,GDDR6 is cheap so they could easily have added more VRAM to compensate.
 
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The only good news I see, if there is an AI Boom, that consumes Consumer Graphics Cards, it may not hit the mid to lower tier cards, just the high end, due to VRAM needs.

All we can do though is wait and see but I am not optimistic.
 
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Seems 4090 FE's also crack at the latch area too like gigabyte cards. Well one so far highlighted could have been dropped or badly handled or person didn't unlatch the card from the pcie slot correctly. But a heads up and lets see if more pop up in time.
 

Seems 4090 FE's also crack at the latch area too like gigabyte cards. Well one so far highlighted could have been dropped or badly handled or person didn't unlatch the card from the pcie slot correctly. But a heads up and lets see if more pop up in time.
Is this from reviewers constantly swapping them in and out of test benches? Or from general consumers not using a gpu support/brace?
 
General consumers. It is first I have heard of with this issue so far. So could also be damage caused by a user forgetting to unlatch the card, time will tell.
I don't get why people would even take a brand new card out of a system they've just built or upgraded. Let alone enough times to do something like that to it. Madness!

It's gotta be reviewers swapping them across various platforms for review videos sureeeeellllyyyyyy!
 
People undervolting your 4090’s, are you doing it via the curve profile and then applying a PL so it can’t go past a certain wattage? Cos from what i understand thats the best way to do it unless anyone else has done it any other way?
 
People undervolting your 4090’s, are you doing it via the curve profile and then applying a PL so it can’t go past a certain wattage? Cos from what i understand thats the best way to do it unless anyone else has done it any other way?

I've done it both ways, Via the curve and PL and just the PL. The former will net you a few more watts in power savings but the difference isn't huge.
 
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Okay thanks both

Yup I did it both ways too, 2805/0.95v with a 78% PL iirc. Was a decent sample though I think.

Tried these settings on port royal but it crashed near the end, i can do 965mv though and do the run no problem with a 78% PL. What wattage does yours pull at 78% PL? I'm seeing anywhere between 310-350w.
 
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