NVIDIA 4000 Series

[jsbombjack]

I'm just using the official Corsair cable they've released for their PSUs

Yep, me too. Works like a charm and no issues. I got the braided one and it's very easy to bend without causing issues.

 

[decto]

Yep, me too. Works like a charm and no issues. I got the braided one and it's very easy to bend without causing issues.

Using Corsair cable as well, bent after the comb so straight near the connector.

I never liked the cable mod style adapters, double the resistance, double the heat and a very short metal link between the two heat sources (connector pins).

Nvidia connector is ugly as.... with the number of 8 pins floating in the breeze. If it was 12 inch adapter you could at least hide the ugly bit, instead you get a rubix cube floating over your GPU.

 

[Neil79]

 

[bluesouljah]

My Seasonic PSU came with a cable and has been fine so far. I bought the cablemod adapter, but it looked like it was bending when I put it on, so, I didn't bother with it. Glad I didn't now.

 

[Grim5]

Gonna need a TLDR. Structure of the video is ridiculous, you know how hard it is to watch or navigate with a 100 timestamps on the timeline, **** me Daniel, that's why you should put your timestamps in a pinned comment, not in the video. Secondly, with so many configurations, the video could be 5 times shorter if you put your data into graphs instead of playing video of you playing the game for almost 40 minutes to pad out your ad revenue

I really start to appreciate the old days again, when all this type of content was in written reviews it was easy to get to the point

I understand why Daniel makes his videos as annoying as possible, it's to maximise his ad share revenue but that doesn't make them any less ****, someone should tell him to ask for Patreon donations or start selling mousepads then maybe he can make shorter videos that don't beat around the bush

 

[srekal34]

Cablemod's are melting too.

Apparently they have changed supplier for cables - and supposedly they shouldnt melt now.
Fixed adapters are still dumpster fire, dont know why they are selling them if they already acknowledged the issue.
You have a chance that with new gpu you get recessed connector as well, which should be safer.

 

[SpellowHouse]

Yep, me too. Works like a charm and no issues. I got the braided one and it's very easy to bend without causing issues.

Same here.
As soon as the braided one came out, I put one on back-order, even though at the time I didn't have a GPU to use it with, lol. Figured that sooner or later I would.
They are nice cables and well worth the small amount extra they cost over the standard cable.

 

[Stu999]

Is there any chance the 5000 series will be physically smaller than the 4000? Or will they be the size of a case and you just have to plug it into your regular case?

 

[Grim5]

Is there any chance the 5000 series will be physically smaller than the 4000? Or will they be the size of a case and you just have to plug it into your regular case?

Some 4000 series cards are very small, so you just need to buy the right one mate

My 4090 is quite small, just 238mm long: L=238 W=141 H=40 mm

 

[JediFragger]

My 4090 is quite small, just 238mm long: L=238 W=141 H=40 mm

Tbf you've neglected to mention the humungous 360mm AiO attached to it!!!

 

[Andromeda1983]

I bought an ASUS 4070 TUF and honestly its running mint ( unvolted to 0.950 V @ 2745mhz ) and runs a lot nicer than my 3070 did power draw wise

 

[Grim5]

Tbf you've neglected to mention the humungous 360mm AiO attached to it!!!

Doesn't change the fact that the card is tiny

 

[Purgatory]

Doesn't change the fact that the card is tiny

Overall it takes up more space in the case than any card with a standard air cooler though. So a bit of a funny thing to say considering they are the largest cards available the AIO's..

 

[Removed User 345456]

I bought an ASUS 4070 TUF and honestly its running mint ( unvolted to 0.950 V @ 2745mhz ) and runs a lot nicer than my 3070 did power draw wise

I have the DUAL variant, and it's tiny, I agree the undervolting is madness, out of the box my stock game clock was something crazy like 350mhz higher than the ref nvidia card, how about yours?

I just choose to undervolt it about 50-80mhz game clock higher than ref clocks, my fan never comes on apart from once doing RT in Control at 1440p ultra. I dunno about your TUF, but my Dual's fan comes on at 65C, to which my temps other than that once, never turns on, due to it spending it's life at 53-57C on average, when it was really hot outdoors it went to 63C, but that for after 8 hours flat, my rigs fans barely turn on and it lives 2 feet from an airing cupboard, so I think these cards aren't bad 'for what they are'?

Power draw wise, I use between 105-115w at 1440p native max settings, CP/Control I use say 135-145w peak 1440p DLSS/FG/RT on, what kinda results did you achieve?

Can confirm as of tonight, Cyberpunk 2.0 runs very smoothly, I wouldn't say noticably any different from 1.68 patch (think that's the number?) but that isn't a bad thing, both ran nicely

 

[Grim5]

I have the DUAL variant, and it's tiny, I agree the undervolting is madness, out of the box my stock game clock was something crazy like 350mhz higher than the ref nvidia card, how about yours?

I just choose to undervolt it about 50-80mhz game clock higher than ref clocks, my fan never comes on apart from once doing RT in Control at 1440p ultra. I dunno about your TUF, but my Dual's fan comes on at 65C, to which my temps other than that once, never turns on, due to it spending it's life at 53-57C on average, when it was really hot outdoors it went to 63C, but that for after 8 hours flat, my rigs fans barely turn on and it lives 2 feet from an airing cupboard, so I think these cards aren't bad 'for what they are'?

Power draw wise, I use between 105-115w at 1440p native max settings, CP/Control I use say 135-145w peak 1440p DLSS/FG/RT on, what kinda results did you achieve?

Can confirm as of tonight, Cyberpunk 2.0 runs very smoothly, I wouldn't say noticably any different from 1.68 patch (think that's the number?) but that isn't a bad thing, both ran nicely

That's the benefit of big cards we've had this Gen. all up and down the stack the cards are quieter and some cards like yours don't even need fans

If you get one of those cases that use the exterior of the case as a passive heatsink for the CPU, then you put your 4070 and like a 7800x3d in there and then the entire system is completely quiet making zero noise other than capacitor/coil sounds

 

[Removed User 345456]

That's the benefit of big cards we've had this Gen. all up and down the stack the cards are quieter and some cards like yours don't even need fans

If you get one of those cases that use the exterior of the case as a passive heatsink for the CPU, then you put your 4070 and like a 7800x3d in there and then the entire system is completely quiet making zero noise other than capacitor/coil sounds

Yeah it's interesting that the TUF despite being higher tier and a triple fan doesn't perform any better than my smaller dual - bonus is, my dual will fit in my MITX 2nd build when the time comes, so win win.

Case/cooling wise, I have a zero rpm mode psu, my fans are barely on on my case, and my PA120SE keeps my 65w 'eco mode' set 5700x to 53-57c in games, my gpu never goes above 63c, it's stupid quiet, even next to an airing cupboard/boiler, even during that heatwave. Mental!

 

[Removed User 345456]

FWIW, currently watching YT, browsing stuff in the background in Mint, (dual boot win10 for games if Proton doesn't allow in Mint)

 

[SpellowHouse]

Is there any chance the 5000 series will be physically smaller than the 4000? Or will they be the size of a case and you just have to plug it into your regular case?

I think there is a very high chance.

Personally, I like the size and so temperatures of the 4000 series, but they've been widely criticised for being too big when they could have been smaller with acceptably higher temperatures. The general feeling is that NVIDIA "predicted" the power consumption to be higher than it actually turned out to be, and they will probably correct that with the 5000 series. So you might well be looking at smaller but hotter.

Really, who knows? They may keep them the same and increase power consumption?

 

[Andromeda1983]

I have the DUAL variant, and it's tiny, I agree the undervolting is madness, out of the box my stock game clock was something crazy like 350mhz higher than the ref nvidia card, how about yours?

I just choose to undervolt it about 50-80mhz game clock higher than ref clocks, my fan never comes on apart from once doing RT in Control at 1440p ultra. I dunno about your TUF, but my Dual's fan comes on at 65C, to which my temps other than that once, never turns on, due to it spending it's life at 53-57C on average, when it was really hot outdoors it went to 63C, but that for after 8 hours flat, my rigs fans barely turn on and it lives 2 feet from an airing cupboard, so I think these cards aren't bad 'for what they are'?

Power draw wise, I use between 105-115w at 1440p native max settings, CP/Control I use say 135-145w peak 1440p DLSS/FG/RT on, what kinda results did you achieve?

Can confirm as of tonight, Cyberpunk 2.0 runs very smoothly, I wouldn't say noticably any different from 1.68 patch (think that's the number?) but that isn't a bad thing, both ran nicely

Yeah power draw will barely touch 150W while maintaining full stock performance under my testing. Honestly I think I could push it below 0.950v but then i'd start losing stock performance so I'm happy with my undervolt

As for noise levels most of the time the fans are off simply because it doesn't get warm enough for the fans to have a reason to power on but when they do its incredibly quiet anyway

 

[Removed User 345456]

Yeah power draw will barely touch 150W while maintaining full stock performance under my testing. Honestly I think I could push it below 0.950v but then i'd start losing stock performance so I'm happy with my undervolt

As for noise levels most of the time the fans are off simply because it doesn't get warm enough for the fans to have a reason to power on but when they do its incredibly quiet anyway

Nioce nioce! Good to hear someone else has actually bothered to try one out other than me, and I usually go AMD, but couldn't deny how good this looked feature set/performance/undervolt/temp/silence potential wise.
I cant think now but iirc I'm 0.925v or 0.950v but yeah they just sip power, as I say my fans only come on once in Control and IIRC it could have been on the performance dual bios, I switched it to quiet since then and it never comes on bar that 1 bit in Control with RT and maxed out 1440p.
It's nice not having something constantly coil wining and burning your leg/turning your room into a furnace/sauna!

Idk if you saw, but the video I linked above comparing both our cards? Despite him being cringe, it highlights the power of these cards. I don't even bother to clock mine, sure I have messed around, but I just don't 'need' to as of yet. I like the idea of not ragging on it and looking after it, as silly as that sounds and prolonging the lifespan cause it should fit in my MITX 2nd build when the time comes, I did get tempted to sell it, but I don't know tbh, there's something about having just built an all brand new rig and keeping all the boxes/having decent warranty/keeping everything mint/respecting it? Might sound overkill, but I always look after my stuff whatever it may be.