NVIDIA 4000 Series

[Joxeon]

Between the truck load of money AI brings and AMD's inability to properly compete, they're doing fine. Even a crappy gen can be good to have as a bad example for the next. 5080 for $1200 and offering 50% more performance? Great price! It worked with the 3090 vs 4090, it will work again.

The 5080 will be 1k, Nvidia tried $1200 and it failed miserably.

Why do you think we have the 4080 super for 1k? It’s so Nvidia can test the waters.

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

40 Series SUPER Value

Just received my 4070 SUPER from Overclockers (Thanks!) I used this graph below to work out that it currently has the best performance per Watt and Best Performance per £. Enjoy! http://www.frequencycomputers.co.uk/shot.jpg

forums.overclockers.co.uk

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theres always a few willing to buy, best watt to performance? guess they dont get out much

 

[KompuKare]

40 Series SUPER Value

Just received my 4070 SUPER from Overclockers (Thanks!) I used this graph below to work out that it currently has the best performance per Watt and Best Performance per £. Enjoy! http://www.frequencycomputers.co.uk/shot.jpg

forums.overclockers.co.uk

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Taking @SkillTim's numbers to work out what all the Super's bring vs the plain, I get something like this:

No real surprise. Of course, the 4080 was terribly overpriced and now the 4070 Ti is enough for a decent amount of VRAM (from team green anyhow).
Still, the "value" seems to have mostly outpaced inflation!

 

[Joxeon]

theres always a few willing to buy, best watt to performance? guess they dont get out much

Looks like they swapped from a 3080 so I supposed the energy saving was the only noticeable difference other than their wallet being lighter.

 

[Goody_GTI]

Very disappointing, if anything I was hoping they’d put some pressure on AMD to do some prices drops but looking at the results this isn’t going to happen

 

[Zizilia]

I reckon the AIBs are gonna be even more miffed if the Ti-Super is the worst of the bunch based on reviews!

 

[Calin Banc]

The 5080 will be 1k, Nvidia tried $1200 and it failed miserably.

Why do you think we have the 4080 super for 1k? It’s so Nvidia can test the waters.

4080 wasn't that good vs 3080, that's one of the reasons it failed. 3090 also (for gaming). but either way, $1199 or $999 is still a good increase compared to $699.

I'd say it depends it stuff la Cyberpunk can be launched relatively easy or not.

 

[JediFragger]

4080 wasn't that good vs 3080

50% faster roughly, price was the issue not the perf bump.

 

[Gerard]

50% faster roughly, price was the issue not the perf bump.

Yup, £650 vs £1200 because nvidia seen the prices cards were being flogged for during the pandemic and decided to try it on. Barely 50% for 2x the price. Bargain!

 

[muzzydark]

The 5080 will be 1k, Nvidia tried $1200 and it failed miserably.

Why do you think we have the 4080 super for 1k? It’s so Nvidia can test the waters.

And if 4080S for £1k work out well -> GB104-5080-16GB-£1k

 

[Joxeon]

And if 4080S for £1k work out well -> GB104-5080-16GB-£1k

It won’t work out well as most the people prepared to spend 1k on a card at this point would have done so already.

 

[FoxEye]

I don't know about the 5080, but I'm very much looking forward to an 8GB 5060 at £500. All the comedy gold you could possibly want.

 

[gpuerrilla]

It won’t work out well as most the people prepared to spend 1k on a card at this point would have done so already.

Only winners could be the second hand MM taking the cards from the fomo buyers offloading their 4080 > 5080.

 

[Joxeon]

Only winners could be the second hand MM taking the cards from the fomo buyers offloading their 4080 > 5080.

I’d probably offer up £400 for a 4080S this time next year.

 

[Calin Banc]

50% faster roughly, price was the issue not the perf bump.

If it would have been around 73% faster and about 14% slower than 4090 (similar to 3080 vs 3090 as per techpowerup ), maybe it would have made more sales. Anyway, nVIDIA needs more Cyberpunk style games, with path tracing or heavy RT to convince people. But not just bolted on, actually properly made around it.

 

[Joxeon]

4080 wasn't that good vs 3080, that's one of the reasons it failed. 3090 also (for gaming). but either way, $1199 or $999 is still a good increase compared to $699.

I'd say it depends it stuff la Cyberpunk can be launched relatively easy or not.

Around +50% performance at £650 would have made it a great card, £750 would have been a good card, £800 OK but once you go over £900+ its value proposition falls away and £1200 well that was probably the worse gen on gen price to performance slump in the history of gaming GPUs with a -37% decrease in price to performance if you were a UK buyer.

 

[Neil79]

I'm dissapointed as I was going to upgrade my 3070 TI OC! I want to max out RT in Ratchet and Clank and Alan Wake/Witcher 3 without having to use FG mods!

 

[rare]

The RTX 3080 was supposed to be the flagship GPU of the 3000 series and the 3090 for professional workloads.

Was it really though? I’ve seen people say this plenty of times but Nvidia blatantly positioned the 3090 as a gaming card. The 3080 was never the flagship.

 

[Grim5]

50% faster roughly, price was the issue not the perf bump.

Yep, if anyone doesn't think a 50% generational leap is good then they've been spoiled by other recent releases. Historically 50% is a very good performance gain for a new GPU, the problem as you mentioned is of course the price. If the price was still $699 like the 3080 then the 4080 would have sold like hot cakes

 

[muon]

4070 Ti Super is surprisingly far behind the 4080. Keeping the same TDP whilst adding extra RAM was a mistake. It must be heavily power limited, which you can see in frequency graphs. The 4070 Ti remains locked at its max frequency, whilst the Super fluctuates a lot.

With the 4070 Super they added 20W and it uses that well.

Will be interesting if the OC cards with higher power limits open up a gap vs MSRP cards.