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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Realised a year or so ago that nvidia had priced themselves out of my market so went 2nd hand (3080) .That did not go well so decided to try AMD (6800xt) .

I do not wish to push my luck BUT have to say that the 6800xt has been good so far . I do not see a situation where I would be going back to nvidia (too expensive!!)
 
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Dicehunter said:
They know their frothing at the mouth fan base will pay anything, They could charge £3000 for the 5090, £2500 for the 5080 and £2000 for the 5070 and Nvidia uber fans would lap it up.
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After looking at this thread of what some members earn on here it only really pocket change :cry:

Are you a top revenue earner?

Inspired by the ‘NI cut’ thread. Are you a top revenue earner? I’ll ask for an anonymous poll but if you feel comfortable saying your annual income please do. Edit - talking about individual income but if you want to post household too that’s great. Options:
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk

Sadly my own earning are far far lower :(
 
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I would only get the 5090 under a few circumstances:

  1. At least 35% faster than 4090 (which is approx 25% improvement in cost per frame)
  2. Same MSRP (or less)
To pay up to £2,000 would require 60-70% more performance, which doesn't seem likely. I could also do £1,800 for 50%, so quite a few options...
 
lawless50 said:
I would only get the 5090 under a few circumstances:

  1. At least 35% faster than 4090 (which is approx 25% improvement in cost per frame)
  2. Same MSRP (or less)
To pay up to £2,000 would require 60-70% more performance, which doesn't seem likely. I could also do £1,800 for 50%, so quite a few options...
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I might (probably) get a 5090, but if it's significantly more than the current 4090 FE, then I will give it a pass, and wait it out for the six series.

I find myself gaming less these days anyhow.
 
It's difficult to see the 5090 being a huge improvement. The 4090 was a huge improvement because Nvidia went from Samsung 8nm to TSMC 4nm , that gave a massive increase in transistor density and power efficiency savings which was used to boost the core count by 60%, boost clocks speeds by 50% and boost L2 cache by 1200%. The 5090 will be on tsmc 3nm, which does not have those same transistor density and power savings increase, so it becomes difficult to see how they can get a significant gain if they keep the same architecture, unless they make a massive GPU die with 600w TDP, that's always possible but a bigger GPU will come with bigger price, probably $2.5k
 
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Grim5 said:
It's difficult to see the 5090 being a huge improvement. The 4090 was a huge improvement because Nvidia went from Samsung 8nm to TSMC 4nm , that gave a massive increase in transistor density and power efficiency savings which was used to boost the core count by 60%, boost clocks speeds by 50% and boost L2 cache by 1200%. The 5090 will be on tsmc 3nm, which does not have those same transistor density and power savings increase, so it becomes difficult to see how they can get a significant gain if they keep the same architecture, unless they make a massive GPU die with 600w TDP, that's always possible but a bigger GPU will come with bigger price, probably $2.5k
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Using AI they improved their GPU architecture apparently. MLID heard it from his mate's brothers, cousins dog walker.
 
lawless50 said:
I would only get the 5090 under a few circumstances:

  1. At least 35% faster than 4090 (which is approx 25% improvement in cost per frame)
  2. Same MSRP (or less)
To pay up to £2,000 would require 60-70% more performance, which doesn't seem likely. I could also do £1,800 for 50%, so quite a few options...
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I'm with you on this. £2k would need to be a big improvement
 
Grim5 said:
It's difficult to see the 5090 being a huge improvement. The 4090 was a huge improvement because Nvidia went from Samsung 8nm to TSMC 4nm , that gave a massive increase in transistor density and power efficiency savings which was used to boost the core count by 60%, boost clocks speeds by 50% and boost L2 cache by 1200%. The 5090 will be on tsmc 3nm, which does not have those same transistor density and power savings increase, so it becomes difficult to see how they can get a significant gain if they keep the same architecture, unless they make a massive GPU die with 600w TDP, that's always possible but a bigger GPU will come with bigger price, probably $2.5k
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Using a less cut down chip of 95% instead of 89% would get you +10%, the higher bandwidth from GDDR7 another +10% then add +20% for the new 3NM node and 15% for architecture improvements and your already at +55% so not to dissimilar to the +70% which the 4090 has over a 3090.
 
humbug said:
They are using AI to design GPU's now? that's impressive, that AI can do that, also scary.....
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Terminators always wore leather jackets.

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Jensen was sent from the future to ensure the creation of Skynet

Lisa Su was sent from the future to prevent the creation of Skynet

And Pat Gelsinger, well he's just the kid everyone picked last in gym/P.E class at school
 
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