NVIDIA 4000 Series

throwaway4372 · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:14

Rilot said:
Since I got my Steamdeck I've not touched my gaming PC. I don't think I'll be buying a 40 series.

I've been wondering why ppl buy these - I must be missing something.
Can you summarise what's so good about it? What do you play on it?

Calin Banc · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:14

Nexus18 said:
Lets just hope they have RT performance matching ampere or beating it as if it still looses, it will be a big fat meh from me unless it is priced extremely well i.e. £600-700 for a 7800xt.... couldn't care less about rasterization now.

Unless AMD goes back to R290/X days, I wouldn't hold my breath for a significant lower price. Moreover, I highly doubt they'll have something to compete with DLSS 3 which is going to leave them in the dust for any CPU limited scenario/game. Until FSR is up to speed with that...

Plus, for RT/PT, if you want 4k, you need the kind of performance of these next gen cards. So is kind of a bad/sad thing all around.

TNA · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:15

HACO said:
If we get that 7800 XT, I will come to AMD for the first time since 2009.

Wow. I only had AMD like 2 years ago, but based on some posts here one would think it was 20

Rilot · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:16

throwaway4372 said:
I've been wondering why ppl buy these - I must be missing something.
Can you summarise what's so good about it? What do you play on it?

So far, I've played through Control, Doom Eternal, Horizon Zero Dawn, and a bunch of indie games.
It's never going to compete with a proper gaming PC or laptop for graphics quality but it's good enough for a good experience and I can play while sat on the sofa with my wife or on the train.

Nexus18 · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:16

throwaway4372 said:
I've been wondering why ppl buy these - I must be missing something.
Can you summarise what's so good about it? What do you play on it?

This.

Have seen a lot of people ranting and raving about it but not sure I see the appeal?

Calin Banc said:
Unless AMD goes back to R290/X days, I wouldn't hold my breath for a significant lower price. Moreover, I highly doubt they'll have something to compete with DLSS 3 which is going to leave them in the dust for any CPU limited scenario/game. Until FSR is up to speed with that...

Plus, for RT/PT, if you want 4k, you need the kind of performance of these next gen cards. So is kind of a bad/sad thing all around.

Agree.

I think if all you care about is power efficiency and raster. amd will make an absolute killing though.

TNA said:
Wow. I only had AMD like 2 years ago, but based on some posts here one would think it was 20

Same here

Tired9 · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:16

TNA said:
Wow. I only had AMD like 2 years ago, but based on some posts here one would think it was 90

FTFY

JediFragger · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:22

muon said:
I bet the 3080 12gb will beat the 4080 12gb in some scenarios.

Yeah, price!

Quartz · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:23

Sparx said:
Yeah, basically EVGA already admitted to Steve they have made 40xx engineering GPUs already

Right, but in his latest video he said he'd actually seen some.

Joeyuk · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:23

Its a bit shady having a 4080 12gb and 16gb versions, most people on paper will just assume it’s the memory that’s different but it’s a completely different card.

Captain · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:24

rumple9 said:
who's pre-ordering from ocuk ?

I hope ocuk have learnt their lesson from the 3000 series and only allow orders for the amount of stock they have.

Quartz · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:25

Joeyuk said:
Its a bit shady having a 4080 12gb and 16gb versions, most people on paper will just assume it’s the memory that’s different but it’s a completely different card.

Remember how there were two versions of the GTX 1060 and the 3 GB version had a worse GPU than the 6 GB version?

willhub · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:26

Prices are absolutely attrocious, it's a disgrace. A 4070 for nearly 1k and 1.2k for a 4080, not to mention backwards pricing where the $ is more value than the £

g67575 · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:26

HACO said:
There will be no 4080 12GB FE. The price is MSRP for AIBs.

So, it could be more than that. Lovely.

Which GPUs are getting a reference model then?

aoaaron · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:26

This 40 series launch is just crazy.

The only decent value is the 4090. the 4080 and 4070 are just ridiculous. Can't wait to see rasterisation numbers.

Joxeon · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:26

JGF111 said:
There is a very significant difference this time though.... the actual performance. Aside from the 2080Ti which was a meagre ~30ish% faster than a 1080Ti (for a massive premium) the other turing cards were basically EQUIVALENT performance just with raytracing bolted on. That was the (bad) joke. That is not the case this time. The performance uplift is significant, but you're going to pay for it.

Is the performance much better though?, the £950 4080 12gb only has a 192 bus and 7680 cuda cores so can't see this being more than 10% faster than a 3080 10gb which had a 320 bus and 8700 cuda?

JediFragger · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:28

g67575 said:
£949 for a RTX 4070 FE 12GB? Wow.

Fixed

Joxeon · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:30

Captain said:
I hope ocuk have learnt their lesson from the 3000 series and only allow orders for the amount of stock they have.

They be lucky to sell out at all let alone have pre order queues.

jwilliamson47 · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:32

People with more money than sense will still buy them. Terrible pricing and makes me think it's mainly to shift 3000 series cards.

Captain · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:34

Joxeon said:
They be lucky to sell out at all let alone have pre order queues.

Of course they’ll sell out, the same people on here moaning are the very same that’ll pay inflated prices, happens year after year and it’ll never change.

g67575 · 20 Sep 2022 at 20:35

DX 13 eta wen?

Maybe with Windows 12?