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NVIDIA 4000 Series

I wouldn't be surprised if the 4080 12g and 16g was either a 104 or 103 die. Gonna be interesting to watch the tear down. If it does turn out to be a 102 class die in both of them then nvidia must be having an insane defect rate at the foundry.
 
Wonder how long before the prices come down to a more "reasonable" level

I don't think they will. The discovered with the 3090Ti that people would pay crazy, crazy prices for a graphics card, so now that's the level they're building their highest spec cards to. On the other hand, unless you've got a deep seated need to have the ultimate best in high FPS 4K or VR, the cheaper cards are going to be plenty enough.
 
So it is not the same as launch price then. Not that many could buy it at msrp for long per of time.

Question is, do you think AMD will be your saviour? What price performance and price poits do you think they will hit in November?

My worry is Lisa will just take the chance and undercut by $100 and call it a day which is still ****.
Companies lock in exchange rates ahead of time. so the exchange rate they use is not the same as what consumers use. If the AIBs where hovering around the actual MSRP price you might have a point but they are not. Also what is the usual depreciation for EOL electronic items. Are you saying it is usually less than 15%?
Go see my post in the RDNA 3 thread.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the 4080 12g and 16g was either a 104 or 103 die. Gonna be interesting to watch the tear down. If it does turn out to be a 102 class die in both of them then nvidia must be having an insane defect rate at the foundry.
You dont need to be surprised, its official:
4090 is ad102
4080 16g is ad103
4080 12g is ad104
 
Everyone complaining about the price - have you not heard of inflation or followed the decline of the £ to USD? It's not unique to GPU's either, PS5 price went up recently. All high end electronics have, this will continue as long as our central banks continue their march towards fiscal destruction (printing money, watering down value of currencies, inflating asset prices).

All you can do about it try to secure a good raise at work, or look for employment elsewhere where you can get a decent raise.
 
Companies lock in exchange rates ahead of time. so the exchange rate they use is not the same as what consumers use. If the AIBs where hovering around the actual MSRP price you might have a point but they are not. Also what is the usual depreciation for EOL electronic items. Are you saying it is usually less than 15%?
Go see my post in the RDNA 3 thread.

Lol. No attempt at answering my question I see.
 
Everyone complaining about the price - have you not heard of inflation or followed the decline of the £ to USD? It's not unique to GPU's either, PS5 price went up recently. All high end electronics have, this will continue as long as our central banks continue their march towards fiscal destruction (printing money, watering down value of currencies, inflating asset prices).

All you can do about it try to secure a good raise at work, or look for employment elsewhere where you can get a decent raise.
I'm not sure the decline of the £ to USD has much to do with people 'complaining' about the price in $.

Also while we're on the subject I'm not sure inflation outweighs what would typically be the deflation of consumer electronics, i swear some people are asking to be ripped off. Someone mentioned the other day how early computers came with 1Kb of RAM and cost more than a house and car back in the day and sure they did, but you can now buy a similar computer for $2 so just stop with this inflation, R&D costs, shipping costs, and excusing corporate greed.
 
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Everyone complaining about the price - have you not heard of inflation or followed the decline of the £ to USD? It's not unique to GPU's either, PS5 price went up recently. All high end electronics have, this will continue as long as our central banks continue their march towards fiscal destruction (printing money, watering down value of currencies, inflating asset prices).

All you can do about it try to secure a good raise at work, or look for employment elsewhere where you can get a decent raise.
Stop with the protection of greedy nvidia. They are greedy and that's the end of it.
 
So the prices in Germany are up now, and the 4080-12Gb is going to come in at the same price as the 3080Ti currently is. It'll be interesting to see how the two cards compare when we start getting benchmarks. The 3080Ti has about a third more CUDA cores, and twice the bus width, but the 4080-12 has a much faster clock (almost a GHz faster), all the new tech, and - although I can't see this confirmed by Nvidia anywhere - 8x as much L2 cache.
 
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