NVIDIA 4000 Series

[xPETEZx]

I doubt it, you need VRAM for that stuff and the lack of NVlink is an issue.

They are either already running dual 3090 so 48GB of VRAM and a ton of performance, so would be a step back in VRAM to get a 4090. Or they have a single 3090 in which case for the price of a 4090 they can get a 3090, PSU and an NVlink bridge.

I also cant imagine professional outfits upgrading systems yet.
They likely depreciate the assets over 3 or 5 years, and will want there moneys worth.

They will buy once those system are depreciated / out of warranty, and get whatever is the current price to performance king for their need.

 

[mrk]

Oh is that a separate version then lol, will check that out!

edit* It's not in the free edition, pass then.

Is it the extreme version?

*Cough* You've left your name in the top corner *cough*

Lol everyone everywhere knows my name so it's fine

 

[hobib_ali]

4090 Blender score comparison if it's useful to someone;

Whats that benchmark on though? 4090 beating a quadro A6000?

 

[arknor]

Is the card runs 50c in cyberpunk then why the mammoth heatsink....

I bet nvidia have just moved the sensor away from the core

 

[mrk]

Is the card runs 50c in cyberpunk then why the mammoth heatsink....

Erm surely you have answered your own question, it runs at 50 because of the massive heatsink.

 

[arknor]

The 4090 is so powerful as it's turning out that nvidia knew this, hence the price, because it's so powerful they know that anyone buying one will almost certainly skip the next generation or two

It's not aimed at gamers and the majority sold won't go to gamers

Erm surely you have answered your own question, it runs at 50 because of the massive heatsink.

doubt it, why not have a smaller heatsinkt hat takes up 2.5 or 3 slots and run at 60-70c instead? why the mythical 50c

 

[hobib_ali]

what do you guys think on the 3090ti vs the 4090

No way it will be 50%

somthing like 10-15%

and we are talking a grand in price difference right now...

 

[willhub]

The card is STONKING. I hope by June 17th next year the prices will be reasonable so I can upgrade the GPU.

 

[Besty]

what do you guys think on the 3090ti vs the 4090

No way it will be 50%

somthing like 10-15%

and we are talking a grand in price difference right now...

70-80% faster.

 

[mrk]

It's not aimed at gamers and the majority sold won't go to gamers

doubt it, why not have a smaller heatsinkt hat takes up 2.5 or 3 slots and run at 60-70c instead? why the mythical 50c

That's not how heat transfer works

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

It's not aimed at gamers and the majority sold won't go to gamers

doubt it, why not have a smaller heatsinkt hat takes up 2.5 or 3 slots and run at 60-70c instead? why the mythical 50c

CP2077 might not be the worst case for the card. So that is something that needs to be considered.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Whats that benchmark on though? 4090 beating a quadro A6000?

that is the blender benchmark

Blender - Open Data

Blender Open Data is a platform to collect, display and query the results of hardware and software performance tests - provided by the public.

opendata.blender.org

 

[varkanoid]

but can it run Crysis ?

Thought I would dust off the cobwebs on that one.

 

[srekal34]

what do you guys think on the 3090ti vs the 4090

No way it will be 50%

somthing like 10-15%

and we are talking a grand in price difference right now...

It will be +50% in worst cases and 70-80% in best cases. Just look at shader/clock specs mate

 

[Grim5]

What's with that leaked 3Dmark Timespy score though of the 4080 16GB? I just logged in to check what my 3080 Ti scored and it is higher than ones shown above?

Because you tested timespy the free version which runs at 1440p and they used timespy extreme which you pay for and runs at 4k

 

[Gypsum Fantastic]

Is the card runs 50c in cyberpunk then why the mammoth heatsink....

I bet nvidia have just moved the sensor away from the core

So it can run 50c in Cyberpunk.

 

[Grim5]

It's not aimed at gamers and the majority sold won't go to gamers

doubt it, why not have a smaller heatsinkt hat takes up 2.5 or 3 slots and run at 60-70c instead? why the mythical 50c

Because Nvidia told them the card will have 600tdp so they designed a heatsink for 600w

 

[Ayahuasca]

doubt it, why not have a smaller heatsinkt hat takes up 2.5 or 3 slots and run at 60-70c instead? why the mythical 50c

If it's running at 50c in nVidia's temperature-controlled lab at possibly 100% fan speed, putting a smaller heatsink on it and sticking it in the average users case is going to lead to some naughty temperatures.

 

[deuse]

It is. See the Overclockers product page. Specifically states 600w PCB.

Just had a email back about it from Eurotech?
They don't know what a 450-600w board is

 

[ik9000]

$700 to $1200 is 70% – that's one way to look at it. Also, what you're doing there is comparing the lowest-spec 3080 with the highest-spec 4080. The right comparison is 3080 10GB versus 4080 12GB (£649 versus £849 – 30% increase), and 3080 12GB versus 4080 16GB (£749 versus £1199 – 60% increase). There are lots of ways of slicing it, but the most dishonest way is to claim the 4080 is 'twice as expensive' as the 3080. It really isn't, so repeating that it is isn't helpful, it's just rhetoric designed to make people angry.

I'm not going to say the pricing of the 4080s isn't ridiculous. It absolutely is, and no one should buy one in an ideal world! But twice the price is a stretch too far, and unhelpful to the conversation.

Isn't the comparison people refer to based on chipdie in the lineup? so x102 (3090 to 4090) x104(3070 to 4080 12g) and then the oddity x103 (4080 16g Vs x102 3080 10g (latterly 12g) where the 3080s got the same as the 3090s, just lower binned/gimped. The 3070 RRP was £459 iirc so that one has doubled. 3080 £659 to 4080 16gb also appears approx doubled.

It's all a bit moot. Prices are nuts. Whether or not you can afford it I don't think anyone is saying these prices are sensible. But then are the prices of TVs or hi-fi's or watches etc etc etc