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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Because we are talking about a halo card and this forum is for overclockers. I don't care about power efficiency
You missed the point. There's simply almost no FPS to gain past the power use that's already there. Some pushed it as far as power limit allowed and gained 6% max FPS. Also, overclockers and underclokers are 2 sides of the same coin - some people want to see as high FPS as possible no matter what, some want to see as low power use as possible whilst losing almost no FPS. Both things are fun to do as a hobby and can be an art in itself.
 
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Looks like there will be a 4090Ti too Gamers Nexus Steve at 21:00 seems to make a slip up. Not that surprising but how much further can they push it?
 
As far as I see. 1080/240-1440/165-2160/60 cannot use this card for improvements in any meaningful way. If you are exclusively 2160p and exclusively wanting to run well over 60hz then this is the card for you.

Question is...............do you already have a 4k/120/144 screen? IF you don't get that first.
 
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The problem its ominous when a 104 series die which is barely 300MM2 is going for over £900. It was bad enough when the 104 series dies became a 80 series dGPU,but now they are selling for 80TI/90 series type money. The RTX4080 12GB has under half the CUDA cores of the RTX4090. An RTX4070 is most likely going to be a 10GB card with a £700+ price.

The next 60 series dGPU will have a die probably close to 200MM2,probably only 8GB of VRAM,and be well over £500 which is insanity. There is going to be a severe performance stagnation(outside RT benchmarks) I suspect. If AMD does not have something that is better value for money under £1000,I really don't know how these prices will be maintained with Europe entering a severe recession(due to lack of energy) and a global recession because of rising commodity prices,and higher and higher interest rates.
It really makes sense to just buy the top card and skip a generation with the current mid range pricing and performance, you could spend £1300 on a 4080 16gb then 2 years later buy 5080 £1300 and the 5080 will still likely be slower than a 4090 even though you ended up spending £2600.
 
You missed the point. There's simply almost no FPS to gain past the power use that's already there. Some pushed it as far as power limit allowed and gained 6% max FPS. Also, overclockers and underclokers are 2 sides of the same coin - some people want to see as high FPS as possible no matter what, some want to see as low power use as possible whilst losing almost no FPS. Both things are fun to do as a hobby and can be an art in itself.
Fair enough but 6% isn't nothing. If the power limit is the same on AIB cards as FE (unlike previous generations) then that removes one of the reasons people that plan to OC buy an AIB
 
As far as I see. 1080/240-1440/165-2160/60 cannot use this card for improvements in any meaningful way. If you are exclusively 2160p and exclusively wanting to run well over 60hz then this is the card for you.

Question is...............do you already have a 4k/120/144 screen? IF you don't get that first.
Got a 77" LG CX so 4K 120hz and also got an Asus PG279QM 1440p 240hz , i will notice the uplift :D
 
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