NVIDIA 4000 Series

Jay-G25 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:09

Jut watching the HUB review of the 4090 and the uplift at 4k in phenomenal and 1440p is mainly CPU limited ... time to choke my 10900k

labbby · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:10

Can we get a poll for to find out how many have folded and changed their minds on getting one

humbug · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:10

Dave2150 said:
Techpowerup are only not to be trusted when they show Zen4 gaming performance to be below the 12900k I guess?

Yes.

Tinek · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:10

gbgt2 said:
Because we are talking about a halo card and this forum is for overclockers. I don't care about power efficiency

You missed the point. There's simply almost no FPS to gain past the power use that's already there. Some pushed it as far as power limit allowed and gained 6% max FPS. Also, overclockers and underclokers are 2 sides of the same coin - some people want to see as high FPS as possible no matter what, some want to see as low power use as possible whilst losing almost no FPS. Both things are fun to do as a hobby and can be an art in itself.

Troezar · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:11

Looks like there will be a 4090Ti too Gamers Nexus Steve at 21:00 seems to make a slip up. Not that surprising but how much further can they push it?

Dave2150 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:12

humbug said:
Yes.

Accept it and move on

Nvidia are on to a huge winner here, 4090 is an amazing card.

Tinek · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:12

humbug said:
@Jay85 Hang on, are HU and De8auer comparing it to the 3090 or the 3090Ti?

Debaurer is moving between 3090Ti and 3080Ti in his review, depending of what makes sense to the point he tries to make.

Tired9 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:12

Dave2150 said:
Accept it and move on

Nvidia are on to a huge winner here, 4090 is an amazing card.

For the money it's rubbish.

bemaniac · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:12

As far as I see. 1080/240-1440/165-2160/60 cannot use this card for improvements in any meaningful way. If you are exclusively 2160p and exclusively wanting to run well over 60hz then this is the card for you.

Question is...............do you already have a 4k/120/144 screen? IF you don't get that first.

Tired9 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:13

bemaniac said:
As far as I see. 1080/240-1440/165-2160/60 cannot use this card for improvements in any meaningful way. If you are exclusively 2160p and exclusively wanting to run well over 60hz then this is the card for you.

0.0001%

And that guy with his 900p monitor.

Joxeon · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:14

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The problem its ominous when a 104 series die which is barely 300MM2 is going for over £900. It was bad enough when the 104 series dies became a 80 series dGPU,but now they are selling for 80TI/90 series type money. The RTX4080 12GB has under half the CUDA cores of the RTX4090. An RTX4070 is most likely going to be a 10GB card with a £700+ price.

The next 60 series dGPU will have a die probably close to 200MM2,probably only 8GB of VRAM,and be well over £500 which is insanity. There is going to be a severe performance stagnation(outside RT benchmarks) I suspect. If AMD does not have something that is better value for money under £1000,I really don't know how these prices will be maintained with Europe entering a severe recession(due to lack of energy) and a global recession because of rising commodity prices,and higher and higher interest rates.

It really makes sense to just buy the top card and skip a generation with the current mid range pricing and performance, you could spend £1300 on a 4080 16gb then 2 years later buy 5080 £1300 and the 5080 will still likely be slower than a 4090 even though you ended up spending £2600.

8 Pack · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:14

Jay-G25 said:
Jut watching the HUB review of the 4090 and the uplift at 4k in phenomenal and 1440p is mainly CPU limited ... time to choke my 10900k

Exactly as I pointed out several pages ago...

humbug · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:14

B1gbeard said:
HU 59% faster at 4K than a 3090ti. Steve said minimum of 40% uplift over 3090ti up to 75%.

59% is no where near 2X.

gbgt2 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:15

Tinek said:
You missed the point. There's simply almost no FPS to gain past the power use that's already there. Some pushed it as far as power limit allowed and gained 6% max FPS. Also, overclockers and underclokers are 2 sides of the same coin - some people want to see as high FPS as possible no matter what, some want to see as low power use as possible whilst losing almost no FPS. Both things are fun to do as a hobby and can be an art in itself.

Fair enough but 6% isn't nothing. If the power limit is the same on AIB cards as FE (unlike previous generations) then that removes one of the reasons people that plan to OC buy an AIB

B1gbeard · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:15

humbug said:
59% is no where near 2X.

Eh? Who said it was. You said it was 45%.

Tired9 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:15

humbug said:
59% is no where near 2X.

2X is 100% fasterererer.

DJJEZ · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:15

Price gone up again on the strix

Tired9 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:16

DJJEZ said:
Price gone up again on the strix

RIP

Jay-G25 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:16

bemaniac said:
As far as I see. 1080/240-1440/165-2160/60 cannot use this card for improvements in any meaningful way. If you are exclusively 2160p and exclusively wanting to run well over 60hz then this is the card for you.

Question is...............do you already have a 4k/120/144 screen? IF you don't get that first.

Got a 77" LG CX so 4K 120hz and also got an Asus PG279QM 1440p 240hz , i will notice the uplift

rumple9 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:16

Greebo said:
Yeah even Gibbo said you will be better off buying a 3090ti at £900 than dropping £1300+ on a AIB 4080 16gb which will only match its performance except for dlss 3

Think I'd rather have the dlss3 to be honest