NVIDIA 4000 Series

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:36

Joxeon said:
That's leather man for you but what he has done is convince everyone that a good uplift over a poor value product now means a £1700 product is good value.

It does not even come with Hookers or Blackjack! Bender be dissapoint!

Nexus18 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:37

I see someone's jimmies are rustled already :cry:

Await the said review site "don't know what they are talking about!!!! zOMG!" threads

humbug · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:37

When are the 3080 12GB reviews out anyway? Because i'm really looking forward to watching tech reviewers sweat buckets trying to put a positive spin on that dumpster fire....

Jay-G25 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:37

8 Pack said:
Main issue with 10900k is ipc and frequency sadly these days.

Indeed , still a fantastic cpu but far from the best these days ... before the reviews i was planning to run it for another year but now having another think , i think a 13900k and Asus Z790 Hero board might have my name on it in a few weeks :rolleyes:

B1gbeard · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:38

humbug said:
The 4080 12GB has LESS than HALF the shaders and starts at £950, its a 3080 equivalent for £950.

You are now talking about something else. You said the 4090 was 45% faster as a fact based on one review. I pointed out other reviews showing higher uplifts.

Harlequin said:
Interesting power spikes - and oh gosh, 700watts will be easily breached (for gpu alone) by the partner cards. Bloody fast, but holy *** the price. Also, did anyone notice, that in certain titles, the lead over the next card wasnt really that much? 30 fps in tomb raider at 4k?

Which review? GN show 119 3090ti against 200 4090. Sure it wasn't 1440p?

humbug · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:38

Joxeon said:
That's leather man for you but what he has done is convince everyone that a good uplift over a poor value product now means a £1700 product is good value.

Yes exactly.... you're right on.

random_matt · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:38

Nasty spikes, power draw high with RT too. Sold out though, FE that is.

ProStreet · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:39

I had a 3080 and 3090 and got stuttering on games where I had 100 plus fps. I got fed up with it. Sticking with my 3060ti itx build, which is working OK, until something releases that can fit in my case (max 210mm). Frametime over fps any day.

diamount · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:39

random_matt said:
Nasty spikes, power draw high with RT too. Sold out though, FE that is.

Not released until 2pm tomorrow

humbug · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:40

B1gbeard said:
You are now talking about something else. You said the 4090 was 45% faster as a fact based on one review. I pointed out other reviews showing higher uplifts.

Which review? GN show 119 3090ti against 200 4090. Sure it wasn't 1440p?

And i'm telling you your cited 59% with more than twice the shaders makes the 4080 12GB look like it can't even keep up with a £650 3080 for £950.

Jay85 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:41

Joxeon said:
That's leather man for you but what he has done is convince everyone that a good uplift over a poor value product now means a £1700 product is good value.

Couldn't have said it better tbh.

VincentHanna · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:41

random_matt said:
Nasty spikes, power draw high with RT too. Sold out though, FE that is.

Debaur basically said you can run it at 70-75% power draw and almost get the same performance as 100%

bemaniac · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:41

I'm still not convinced it'll sell out. Did 980ti 1080ti and 2080ti sell out on launch day? As those are the only comparable things we have

B1gbeard · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:44

humbug said:
And i'm telling you your cited 59% with more than twice the shaders makes the 4080 12GB look like it can't even keep up with a £650 3080 for £950.

Well I dunno where the 4080 comes from I was just pointing out your one review statement about the uplift of the 4090 over a 3090ti was wrong. We have no idea what the 4080 looks like yet other than speculation.

Joxeon · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:44

humbug said:
Yes exactly.... you're right on.

It's classic nvidia marketing. I suspect they will do the same with the 2 4080s which will be terrible value when released but then nvidia will drop the 4080 16gb down to £950 and a 4080ti on a 102 die for £1300 and everyone will say they're amazing for the price.

humbug · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:45

B1gbeard said:
Well I dunno where the 4080 comes from I was just pointing out your one review statement about the uplift of the 4090 over a 3090ti was wrong. We have no idea what the 4080 looks like yet other than speculation.

I told you i don't care about the 4090, to me all it is is a yard stick for how the same architecture will perform in the lower range and its not looking good, it looks really really bad.

Troezar · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:47

humbug said:
I told you i don't care about the 4090, to me all it is is a yard stick for how the same architecture will perform in the lower range and its not looking good, it looks really really bad.

I see a huge opportunity for AMD but I suspect they see an opportunity to charge more too...

Tired9 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:48

Fingers crossed Radeon have at least Ampere RT perf or better. For 3070 owners like me Radeon may be the upgrade path Nvidia has seemingly destroyed.

Jay85 · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:48

bemaniac said:
I'm still not convinced it'll sell out. Did 980ti 1080ti and 2080ti sell out on launch day? As those are the only comparable things we have

I don't think they will either, the general consensus with scalpers as well right now is the price doesn't make sense and they aren't even remotely interested. Nvidia has pre-scalped it and AIB cards hitting 2400£ means there's little to no room for resale.

It might initially sell out with those that genuinely want one, restocks i predict will sit for months though.

Firestar_3x · 11 Oct 2022 at 16:49

Mega tempted by a FE (even more so than pre reviews), my VR rig will thank me for it!