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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Richdog said:
We will very likely have the same shizzleshow as the last launch where there will be some supply for the first month or two then scalpers will hoover up stock to sell on Ebay etc and prices will rise across the board for months.

Having learnt my lesson last time, I am going to buy the fastest card on release and then wait for the inevitable drought to sell my RTX3090.
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Purgatory said:
That's exactly what will happen again, the 2080ti owners that sold their cards for £500 learned a valuable lesson then, a few weeks later they were selling for more than MSRP or at the MSRP depending on the model. It's all the fear mongering that goes on causing people to panic sell, even CEX has gone down that route today with 3090FE's with 2 year warranty for £900. They just want to reduce their stock once they get to the magic numbers of 5 in stock they go right back up with them too. If you check low stock cards they are higher than msrp in most cases there. They just have too much stock and trying to catch the panic sellers too at the cheap buy prices they have now too. They are basically manipulating the second hand market.

It's basically a buyers marker right now as before it was a sellers market, so a good time to catch a bargain while they are about.
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We haven't seen the bottom yet. Wait a few weeks when release window solidifies. Industrial miners, who've modeled exactly when to sell and buy, will start unloading their cards.
 
Sounding like...

Aug - Series announcement
Sept - 4090 launch
Oct - 4080 launch
Nov - 4070
Dec - 4060

But the tea leaves aren't entirely clear. Could shift a month later (more likely) or earlier (less likely).
 
TNA said:
Would be surprised if all they launch with it the 4090.
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They 100% will launch with the 4090. It's the card with the biggest margins but smallest sales volumes. Doing so, and staggering the launch down the line, allows them to delay to build up supply for the higher volume cards. They only released the 3080 together with the 3090 with the Turing launch since they weren't certain the market was going to exhaust stock of the 3090 so quickly.
 
harmattan said:
They 100% will launch with the 4090. It's the card with the biggest margins but smallest sales volumes. Doing so, and staggering the launch down the line, allows them to delay to build up supply for the higher volume cards. They only released the 3080 together with the 3090 with the Turing launch since they weren't certain the market was going to exhaust stock of the 3090 so quickly.
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Yeah, but as I said, I would be surprised if it is the only card they launch with. I expect there will be at least one more card at launch and that will likely be the 4080.
 
harmattan said:
They 100% will launch with the 4090. It's the card with the biggest margins but smallest sales volumes. Doing so, and staggering the launch down the line, allows them to delay to build up supply for the higher volume cards. They only released the 3080 together with the 3090 with the Turing launch since they weren't certain the market was going to exhaust stock of the 3090 so quickly.
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Funny thing is AMd is rumoured to launch its 7700xt in October/November then 7800xt December/January then 7900xt in February/March, so completely opposite direction to Nvidia

So there can be a 6 month gap between rtx4090 and 7900xt launches.


I think the opposite approach to their launches reflects their experiences in last generation. The RTX3090 sold far better than Nvidia thought it would so they are banking on repeat success with a product that has 100% gross margin. AMD's sales are the opposite direction with 6900XT not selling as well, making them think pushing volume to mid range is a better option to get GPUs out the door, plus there is another benefit- launching smaller die GPUs first on your new node gives you time to improve yields
 
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I would imagine this time its because AMD can churn out the volumes of the mid stack. RDNA2 was laughed at due to the lack of volume being promised, if they would have had plenty of stock in 6800's at release they would have sold all ten times over.
 
Iron Man said:
I was hoping we would have a release date by now. Think the rumours are a September launch?
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According to Videocardz / Guru3d 4070/4080 have been delayed to November because Nvidia is struggling to get the parts - I suspect this is a precursor for more daft pricing on the basis of manufactured "scarcity"
 
Yep that and the mining/crypto crash means the second hand and retailer markets will have tons of stock to sweat over.
 
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