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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Jay-G25 said:
Still no idea when the EK blocks are coming for the Zotac unfortunately, apparently they have a few product announcements coming up in the next week so hopefully they get announced then , tbh with the amount of Zotac cards on the market I doubt it will be long at all as will probably end up as one of the most common cards at this rate as one of the only makes regularly in stock and are selling ...

You can get a Byski block for it now and the Framechaser guy just fitted one and did a review on it video below .

As for the Bios they are available to flash if that's something you wanted to do but probably would wait till the card is watercooled to help keep the vrm and other bits happy as will not be an issue once watercooled. Many owners have flashed their cards and it does increase the power if that's what you are after :)

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Nice 1 will wait for EK, do like the quality of those.
Yeah was wanting a 600w for to play with, which bios did you go for?
 
FlyingScotsman said:
Nice 1 will wait for EK, do like the quality of those.
Yeah was wanting a 600w for to play with, which bios did you go for?
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Ive got the FE now so didn't bother with the bios but going by owners on Overclock.net just about every bios has been tried on all cards now :cry: , on the Zotac i have seen people report the Gigabyte one works well and have also seen a Strix bios flashed onto one... might be worth posting up in this thread as a lot more owners flash their bios on that site or at least seem to :)

https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-4090-owners-club.1800847/page-249
 
Absolutely loving my Strix 4090, very happy with my purchase. 0 issues. Settled on a 70% power target which makes it run at 350W, hardly lose any performance, around 2-5% depending on the game. The difference 100W makes it quite insane - card is much quieter and runs cooler.

Did some testing with my 4090 on other systems. Saw big differences in games with a 10900k, 11900k and 12900k compared to my 13900k.

IMO only consider 4090 if you have a 13900k, 5800X3D or 7950X, else you're wasting the true potential of the card in gaming, even at 4K resolution.
 
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Dave2150 said:
Absolutely loving my Strix 4090, very happy with my purchase. 0 issues. Settled on a 70% power target which makes it run at 350W, hardly loose any performance, around 2-5% depending on the game. The difference 100W makes it quite insane - card is much quieter and runs cooler.

Did some testing with my 4090 on other systems. Saw big differences in games with a 10900k, 11900k and 12900k compared to my 13900k.

IMO only consider 4090 if you have a 13900k, 5800X3D or 7950X, else you're wasting the true potential of the card in gaming, even at 4K resolution.
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That's just not true , i am using a 10900K and it does stunning paired with a 4090 at 4K and 1440P high refresh rate .... yes a 13900k , 7950x will offer more FPS but how much do you really need ? at 4K it is a solid lock at 120FPS and if playing at 1440p game dependant can be anywhere from 200 to 350fps at native and the 1% lows are absolutely fine on a 10900k . I am not even entertaining an upgrade till next year at the earliest but to say they are no good is just wrong . I suppose you will come out with the same stuff next year and the 13900K will be no good all about the 14900K ? Would also be good to see some benchmarks of the gains you saw , some solid data to back up your claim ?
 
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Dave2150 said:
Absolutely loving my Strix 4090, very happy with my purchase. 0 issues. Settled on a 70% power target which makes it run at 350W, hardly lose any performance, around 2-5% depending on the game. The difference 100W makes it quite insane - card is much quieter and runs cooler.

Did some testing with my 4090 on other systems. Saw big differences in games with a 10900k, 11900k and 12900k compared to my 13900k.

IMO only consider 4090 if you have a 13900k, 5800X3D or 7950X, else you're wasting the true potential of the card in gaming, even at 4K resolution.
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"Saw a big difference".

Did you get any comparison benches between them for your own benefit that you could share with others?

Without facts and figures, it's all on your say so and I don't trust strangers.
 
Rup said:
Yes presume will be one FE of any kind per household.
Usto be one model per household, eg I got a 3070 & 3080 FE.
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Just to clarify for anyone interested, I bought my MSI 3090 Gaming X Trio from the other place on launch day 2 years ago, then at the beginning of this year I bought a 3080 FE for my kids PC and I've now just had the 4090 dispatch notice all without any alarms going off.

So you are not excluded from getting the 4090 FE on the basis of already having one previous FE and AIB card.

Going to shuffle the 3090 into my kids PC so they can squeeze a few more frames out of the 120Hz Sony TV it's attached to and offload the 3080 FE to a good home.
 
Bencher said:
Its funny that you are trying to make fun of him when he is actually correct. Coil whine is caused by inductors and usually it happens in the top tier models cause they are doing way more work (power regulation). There is no way that i know off to get rid of it, its just vibrations on the coil due to excessive power going through them.

Thats also why some people report that their coil whine stops after changing psu, cause their old psu was doing a horrible job of regulating the power, forcing the gpu inductors to do all the work
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Funny you say this, I got the Zotac Trinity 4090 (non-OC) yesterday and noticed next to no coil whine at 300fps+, so maybe you're on to something.
 
Jay-G25 said:
That's just not true , i am using a 10900K and it does stunning paired with a 4090 at 4K and 1440P high refresh rate .... yes a 13900k , 7950x will offer more FPS but how much do you really need ? at 4K it is a solid lock at 120FPS and if playing at 1440p game dependant can be anywhere from 200 to 350fps at native and the 1% lows are absolutely fine on a 10900k . I am not even entertaining an upgrade till next year at the earliest but to say they are no good is just wrong . I suppose you will come out with the same stuff next year and the 13900K will be no good all about the 14900K ? Would also be good to see some benchmarks of the gains you saw , some solid data to back up your claim ?
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I agree - I am running the same CPU and even with my old 3090 I was getting a very decent experience 4k gaming (in fact I went from ultra wide 1440p to full fat 4k recently and everything improved so I assume at 1440p I was getting a bottleneck) - I need the 4090 for work as well as play but the 3090 was no slouch paired with that CPU.
 
Dave2150 said:
Absolutely loving my Strix 4090, very happy with my purchase. 0 issues. Settled on a 70% power target which makes it run at 350W, hardly lose any performance, around 2-5% depending on the game. The difference 100W makes it quite insane - card is much quieter and runs cooler.

Did some testing with my 4090 on other systems. Saw big differences in games with a 10900k, 11900k and 12900k compared to my 13900k.

IMO only consider 4090 if you have a 13900k, 5800X3D or 7950X, else you're wasting the true potential of the card in gaming, even at 4K resolution.
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I mean thats nonsense, you're even discounting the 12900k which is usually faster in games than a 7950x
 
user2000 said:
Just to clarify for anyone interested, I bought my MSI 3090 Gaming X Trio from the other place on launch day 2 years ago, then at the beginning of this year I bought a 3080 FE for my kids PC and I've now just had the 4090 dispatch notice all without any alarms going off.

So you are not excluded from getting the 4090 FE on the basis of already having one previous FE and AIB card.

Going to shuffle the 3090 into my kids PC so they can squeeze a few more frames out of the 120Hz Sony TV it's attached to and offload the 3080 FE to a good home.
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Yes just to clarify, (current policy) one FE per generation.
No issues when ordering my 4090 FE after 3080 & 3070 FE.
 
Dave2150 said:
Absolutely loving my Strix 4090, very happy with my purchase. 0 issues. Settled on a 70% power target which makes it run at 350W, hardly lose any performance, around 2-5% depending on the game. The difference 100W makes it quite insane - card is much quieter and runs cooler.

Did some testing with my 4090 on other systems. Saw big differences in games with a 10900k, 11900k and 12900k compared to my 13900k.

IMO only consider 4090 if you have a 13900k, 5800X3D or 7950X, else you're wasting the true potential of the card in gaming, even at 4K resolution.
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I'm rocking a 4090 with an i7 7700K and game at resolutions usually higher than 4k (VR), imo i'm not bottlenecked or if i am it's slight.
 
Iron Man said:
Nice, I can’t relate as I bought a Zotac 4090 yesterday and not shipped today :p
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If its from OCUK they normally send you an email from around now till 7pm saying its been dispatched , Good choice on the Zotac imo and if its anything like mine was will have 0 coil whine unlike my FE which does have a small bit :cry:
 
benbird7 said:
"Saw a big difference".

Did you get any comparison benches between them for your own benefit that you could share with others?

Without facts and figures, it's all on your say so and I don't trust strangers.
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It's been discussed to death already on these forums and various popular review sites. I just wanted to test for myself to see the difference.

If you want some official benchmarks, just use google and look for them. I'll link you some quickly if you're too lazy > https://www.techpowerup.com/review/rtx-4090-53-games-ryzen-7-5800x-vs-core-i9-12900k/2.html

Link above compares performance difference between Ryzen 5800X and 12900k. The difference is even larger when you compare 13th gen and 11th gen, or even people such as @Jay-G25 on 10th gen.

Comparing 7950X to 13900k (at lower resolutions) > a7WMpGX.jpeg

www.computerbase.de

Ryzen 9 7950X und Core i9-13900K spielen auf RTX 4090

Der Benchmark-Test der High-End-Giganten: ComputerBase vergleicht den Ryzen 9 7950X und den Core i9-13900K auf einer GeForce RTX 4090.
www.computerbase.de www.computerbase.de

Frequency and IPC really matter for the 4090. Sure, it's still an upgrade even if you have an old potato of a CPU, though IMO very silly to spend £1700+ and pair it with a potato. A 3070, 3080, 3090, 4070ti etc would be much more sensible, as you can't drive the 4090 well enough for it to shine vs much cheaper cards.
 
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