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Soldato
But you specifically said " 7950x, 13900k or 5800x3d"It's been discussed to death already on these forums and various popular review sites. I just wanted to test for myself to see the difference.
If you want some official benchmarks, just use google and look for them. I'll link you some quickly if you're too lazy > https://www.techpowerup.com/review/rtx-4090-53-games-ryzen-7-5800x-vs-core-i9-12900k/2.html
Link above compares performance difference between Ryzen 5800X and 12900k. The difference is even larger when you compare 13th gen and 11th gen, or even people such as @Jay-G25 on 10th gen.
Comparing 7950X to 13900k (at lower resolutions) >
Ryzen 9 7950X und Core i9-13900K spielen auf RTX 4090
Der Benchmark-Test der High-End-Giganten: ComputerBase vergleicht den Ryzen 9 7950X und den Core i9-13900K auf einer GeForce RTX 4090.www.computerbase.de
Frequency and IPC really matter for the 4090. Sure, it's still an upgrade even if you have an old potato of a CPU, though IMO very silly to spend £1700+ and pair it with a potato. A 3070, 3080, 3090, 4070ti etc would be much more sensible, as you can't drive the 4090 well enough for it to shine vs much cheaper cards.
at 4k there is no meaningful difference between a 13900k, 12900k, 12600-12700k or any modern cpu.
Heres 5800x3d v 12900k @ 4k on a 4090
Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs. Core i9-12900K in 40 Games
A massive gaming benchmark comparison between the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Core i9-12900K, pitting the two head to head across 40 games at 1080p, 1440p and 4K,...
www.techspot.com
Soldato
Who buys a 13900k or a 7950x to game at 720p or even 1080p? I get that the 13900x is quicker but honestly those are completely useless.
But you specifically said " 7950x, 13900k or 5800x3d"
at 4k there is no meaningful difference between a 13900k, 12900k, 12600-12700k or any modern cpu.
Heres 5800x3d v 12900k @ 4k on a 4090
Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs. Core i9-12900K in 40 Games
A massive gaming benchmark comparison between the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Core i9-12900K, pitting the two head to head across 40 games at 1080p, 1440p and 4K,...
Not sure if you're trolling, or just didn't read my post and follow the links.
Here's 4K testing between 5800X and 12900k
In which universe are the above numbers, to use your words, "no meaningful difference"?
Not sure why I bother, some folks just want to believe their own nonsense and ignore reality.
That's enough GPU forum for me for today, enjoy 4090 on potato CPU's!
It's been discussed to death already on these forums and various popular review sites. I just wanted to test for myself to see the difference.
If you want some official benchmarks, just use google and look for them. I'll link you some quickly if you're too lazy > https://www.techpowerup.com/review/rtx-4090-53-games-ryzen-7-5800x-vs-core-i9-12900k/2.html
Link above compares performance difference between Ryzen 5800X and 12900k. The difference is even larger when you compare 13th gen and 11th gen, or even people such as @Jay-G25 on 10th gen.
Comparing 7950X to 13900k (at lower resolutions) >
Ryzen 9 7950X und Core i9-13900K spielen auf RTX 4090
Der Benchmark-Test der High-End-Giganten: ComputerBase vergleicht den Ryzen 9 7950X und den Core i9-13900K auf einer GeForce RTX 4090.
Frequency and IPC really matter for the 4090. Sure, it's still an upgrade even if you have an old potato of a CPU, though IMO very silly to spend £1700+ and pair it with a potato. A 3070, 3080, 3090, 4070ti etc would be much more sensible, as you can't drive the 4090 well enough for it to shine vs much cheaper cards.
At 720p, who the hell is playing at 720p
You say allow the 4090 to shine but what resolution and framerate are you on about that allows it to shine ? i play on 2 displays which are a 4k/120hz and 1440p/240hz and with my Maris Piper of a CPU am capped at the refresh rate of the monitor in the games i play with the CPU and GPU underutilised most of the time unless i turn off v-sync and allow it to go over, it plays smooth as silk but according to you is not enough to drive a 4090 . We have a shadow of the tomb raider benchmark thread on this forum and with your superior 13900k should be able to wipe the floor with my score at 4k using a 10900k (apparently not good enough for 4k according to you )...Shadow of the Tomb Raider Bench Thread
Shadow of the Tomb Raider Bench. Settings. Settings in spoiler below. Simple Rules. DX 11 or 12 can be used, please state which with your results. Do not use DLSS or Ray Tracing on 20XX cards. Any normal resolution can be used up to and including 4K. Please post your Tomb Raider...
forums.overclockers.co.uk
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Thanks I love playing at 720p so really handy for me.It's been discussed to death already on these forums and various popular review sites. I just wanted to test for myself to see the difference.
If you want some official benchmarks, just use google and look for them. I'll link you some quickly if you're too lazy > https://www.techpowerup.com/review/rtx-4090-53-games-ryzen-7-5800x-vs-core-i9-12900k/2.html
Link above compares performance difference between Ryzen 5800X and 12900k. The difference is even larger when you compare 13th gen and 11th gen, or even people such as @Jay-G25 on 10th gen.
Comparing 7950X to 13900k (at lower resolutions) >
Ryzen 9 7950X und Core i9-13900K spielen auf RTX 4090
Der Benchmark-Test der High-End-Giganten: ComputerBase vergleicht den Ryzen 9 7950X und den Core i9-13900K auf einer GeForce RTX 4090.
Frequency and IPC really matter for the 4090. Sure, it's still an upgrade even if you have an old potato of a CPU, though IMO very silly to spend £1700+ and pair it with a potato. A 3070, 3080, 3090, 4070ti etc would be much more sensible, as you can't drive the 4090 well enough for it to shine vs much cheaper cards.
Suffice to say my 12700k @5ghz is fine for a few generations with my 4090.
Vr in msfs with g2 is looking great and performing well.
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Soldato
You literally said "IMO only consider 4090 if you have a 13900k, 5800X3D or 7950X, else you're wasting the true potential of the card in gaming, even at 4K resolution"Not sure if you're trolling, or just didn't read my post and follow the links.
Here's 4K testing between 5800X and 12900k
In which universe are the above numbers, to use your words, "no meaningful difference"?
Not sure why I bother, some folks just want to believe their own nonsense and ignore reality.
That's enough GPU forum for me for today, enjoy 4090 on potato CPU's!
Then you show a 12900k being substantially faster than a 5800x which was never mentioned
According to you, my potato 12900k should be updated and isnt worth of a 4090, despite the fact i can max out my framerate on my 4k/138 monitor on most games.
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Soldato
It wasn't the best overclocker. I think it was 170mhz and 1000 on the memory.
Tbh it was just for scores on 3d mark, which tbf it did get good results (even a legendary number 1 in the world paired with a 5800x at the time lol). Ill be undervolting when I get my FE though.... but I'll over clock first just to see.
Soldato
At least you can keep on dreaming!
Soldato
Good to know 350W is quiet and cool, my 7900XTX should be nice and quiet
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Noticed the pricing of the 4080 making the rounds in the media. That's a bargain if you only buy XX80's. /s
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Thanks I hope Zotac is good and it wasn’t my first choice as I bought an overpriced Aorus Master which had a faulty LCD display and got a refund. So the Zotac worked out £390 cheaper which is a good result in the endIf its from OCUK they normally send you an email from around now till 7pm saying its been dispatched , Good choice on the Zotac imo and if its anything like mine was will have 0 coil whine unlike my FE which does have a small bit
Soldato
Shows a chart that displays a 6.4% average difference.
Yet said losing up to 5% is "hardly any performance" - jebus make up your mind, do you want the fastest or not?
Gainward now in stock at OcUK:
www.overclockers.co.uk
Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card
Order Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card now online and benefit from fast delivery.
www.overclockers.co.uk
Soldato
Thanks I hope Zotac is good and it wasn’t my first choice as I bought an overpriced Aorus Master which had a faulty LCD display and got a refund. So the Zotac worked out £390 cheaper which is a good result in the end
Only AFAIK manufacturer to have 5 years warranty on their cards now EVGA no longer make GPU's. Hopefully EVGA will be back.
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They do make quality cards or have done in the past!Gainward now in stock at OcUK:
Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card
Order Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card now online and benefit from fast delivery.
Soldato
Thanks I hope Zotac is good and it wasn’t my first choice as I bought an overpriced Aorus Master which had a faulty LCD display and got a refund. So the Zotac worked out £390 cheaper which is a good result in the end
You can flash to another bios if you want more power.
Soldato
I like the look of that (Gainward) card and the 5yr warranty. Too bad I'm in the US.
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Gainward now in stock at OcUK:
Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card
Order Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card now online and benefit from fast delivery.
HAHAA near 2 grand and a 2 year warranty, pull the other one.
Look again, its 2.