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Exactly
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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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Exactly
Soldato
Epeen.
Cheaper to produce one cooler than five different variants.
Soldato
Probably more cost effective tooling wise to have one single cooler production line, economies of scale and all that.
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Yep, charge the ******* earth and save yourself money in production at the same time.
Soldato
IKR. 3090 performance for MOAR MONEHS.
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I have been waiting to see regards the 4080 and thought about buying a good 4080 to upgrade from a 1660ti - PRICE PRICE - OMG - What is the results now - thinking
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Wait for AMD prices first ....
Soldato
The 6900XT on sale right now is £649. In raster it is around 90% as fast as this, whilst costing half. And you get £100 in free games lol.
Soldato
$999 for the 7900XTX, so at least $300 cheaper
Caporegime
Plus Nvidia overpriced the RTX2080,so you had basically GTX1080TI level performance for two generations on top of this.
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So the 4080FE is around twice the cost of the 3080FE.
At 4k it provides around a 50% performance boost, drop down to 1440p and that reduces to around 15%, meaning that the 4080 & 4090 are only really useful for people running 4k, and a quick scout through Steam tells you that these two flaship nVidia products are only relevant to around 2-3% of PC gamers.
As someone said above, software companies need to start making more demanding games, at the current pace of progress the 4000 series won't need to be replaced for 3-4yrs.
At 4k it provides around a 50% performance boost, drop down to 1440p and that reduces to around 15%, meaning that the 4080 & 4090 are only really useful for people running 4k, and a quick scout through Steam tells you that these two flaship nVidia products are only relevant to around 2-3% of PC gamers.
As someone said above, software companies need to start making more demanding games, at the current pace of progress the 4000 series won't need to be replaced for 3-4yrs.
Soldato
GN review
"performance is 1 to 1 - 1% increase in performance for each 1% increase in price, so stagnation, again"
"performance is 1 to 1 - 1% increase in performance for each 1% increase in price, so stagnation, again"
Don't worry: it will get reduced in price once the RX 7900 cards are released.
Caporegime
The RX6700 non-XT could have been had recently for under £300. Looking at the recent Computerbase.de review of the RX6700 non-XT,its about 10% faster than an RX6650XT,so you would have been looking at a 70% improvement in rasterised performance at least:
MSI Radeon RX 6650 XT Gaming X Review
With the Radeon RX 6650 XT priced at a competitive MSRP of $400, AMD is offering a new contender for the 1080p Value King title. Thanks to an improved 18 Gbps memory subsystem, the RX 6650 XT can extend its performance lead over the NVIDIA RTX 3060.
Nvidia needs to be reducing the price of their dGPUs,not increasing them. The RTX4080 12GB uses a 104 series type dGPU in terms of size,so it is really an RTX3070 replacement. But it's no point in making "demanding games" if Nvidia overprices these dGPUs,because relatively few will care about buying them at £1000+ when the vast majority of gamers buy much cheaper dGPUs.
In the past mainstream dGPUs had generally decent performance jumps on average,but now they seem to be having a much infrequent set of increases because the top end is jacked up in pricing. Hence companies will look at what the average PC gamer has,and what the consoles use and plan according.
You might get the odd demanding game such as Cyberpunk 2077 or even the upcoming Atomic Heart,but these are not that common and probably require sponsorship.
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The RX6700 non-XT could have been had recently for under £300. Looking at the recent Computerbase.de review of the RX6700 non-XT,its about 10% faster than an RX6650XT,so you would have been looking at a 70% improvement in rasterised performance at least:
MSI Radeon RX 6650 XT Gaming X Review
With the Radeon RX 6650 XT priced at a competitive MSRP of $400, AMD is offering a new contender for the 1080p Value King title. Thanks to an improved 18 Gbps memory subsystem, the RX 6650 XT can extend its performance lead over the NVIDIA RTX 3060.www.techpowerup.com
Nvidia needs to be reducing the price of their dGPUs,not increasing them. The RTX4080 12GB uses a 104 series type dGPU in terms of size,so it is really an RTX3070 replacement. But it's no point in making "demanding games" if Nvidia overprices these dGPUs,because relatively few will care about buying them at £1000+ when the vast majority of gamers buy much cheaper dGPUs.
In the past mainstream dGPUs had generally decent performance jumps on average,but now they seem to be having a much infrequent set of increases because the top end is jacked up in pricing. Hence companies will look at what the average PC gamer has,and what the consoles use and plan according.
You might get the odd demanding game such as Cyberpunk 2077 or even the upcoming Atomic Heart,but these are not that common and probably require sponsorship.
On the flipside if they sell them too 'cheap' they'll be no one lining up to buy the 5000 series when software developers haven't, developed. If games in 2yrs time are no more demanding than games now then you could argue consumers will not need a more powerful GPU. Someone has to blink first, and as games currently stand I see very little use case for either the 4080 or 4090.