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NVIDIA 4000 Series

ServerlessMonkey said:
how important is having lots of power phases as part of 40x0 design? The Founders' and TUF/Strix/Suprim cards seem to have beefy power phase designs compared to some Palit cards -- and the latter cards are almost always in stock across various retailers
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Imo it means 0 difference on the 40x series, Power difference on ADA from 450-600w is not really meaning and performance difference whatsoever.

It's all about silicon quality with these GPUs, The Inno so called doesn't have beefed up vrms and yet I can still get it to boost to 3ghz at stock voltage.

All GPUs have to be made to a spec, Don't be fooled by Buildzoid and his whining ramblings, It makes naff all difference, Just get what you like the look of.
 
ServerlessMonkey said:
how important is having lots of power phases as part of 40x0 design? The Founders' and TUF/Strix/Suprim cards seem to have beefy power phase designs compared to some Palit cards -- and the latter cards are almost always in stock across various retailers
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It helps, but don't expect it to make any sort of difference unless using liquid nitrogen.

That GPU top of the Speed Way and the 3DMark Feature test benchmarks, that's a Palit GameRock OC. That's how important those extra phases are.
 
ServerlessMonkey said:
Between the Omniblack and GameRock OC, is it basically a few MHz and no RGB? I'm all for as little lights as possible
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The Omniblack does not have a vapour chamber. Get the GameRock (non oc) version if you want the cheapest. The RGB can be turned off via Palit software, which actually works and is lightweight. Although the software does look like something out of the 80s, it does the job.
 
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LtMatt said:
The Omniblack does not have a vapour chamber. Get the GameRock (non oc) version if you want the cheapest. The RGB can be turned off via Palit software, which actually works and is lightweight. Although the software does look like something out of the 80s, it does the job.
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The software looks janky as hell. When i tried to use it for my Palit 3090, some of the functions straight up didn't work or did something else instead. Haven't gone back to it since and that was 2 years ago.
 
Jay85 said:
The software looks janky as hell. When i tried to use it for my Palit 3090, some of the functions straight up didn't work or did something else instead. Haven't gone back to it since and that was 2 years ago.
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I can't speak to what it was like in the past, just that it works now and is functional. RGB control, zero rpm fan on/off, overclocking, fan profiles, bios update/saving, etc. Best thing is it works (looking at you MSI with your RGB software that does not work) and is lightweight and uses no resources (looking at you Asus armoury crate).
 
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OverDrive said:
The Palit RGB is very unique. It’s good to hear that they are good cards though.
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If I'm not mistaken, Palit is the last remaining US-based AIB after EVGA deciding they'd had enough. Always solid cards, the ones I've had. My 3090 XLR8 is the coolest running Ampere card I've used, but that just may be due to the chip being a good sample.
 
LtMatt said:
I can't speak to what it was like in the past, just that it works now and is functional. RGB control, zero rpm fan on/off, overclocking, fan profiles, bios update/saving, etc. Best thing is it works (looking at you MSI with your RGB software that does not work) and is lightweight and uses no resources (looking at you Asus armoury crate).
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I hate armoury crate with a passion...
 
Purgatory said:
That's the stuff here :-

www.moddiy.com

Honeywell PTM7950 SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Pad

Buy Honeywell PTM7950 SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Pad for £4.85 with Free Shipping Worldwide (In Stock)
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See problem now for people that want to water cool their 4090FE/AIBs (guessing AIBs are using PCM TIM too) is they will need to get PTM7950 pads/paste or use liquid metal, reason is this pad/paste is only second best to liquid metal and normal thermal paste can't match it. So heads up to people taking them apart for thermal paste changes as this is not normal thermal paste but a phase change pad/paste. Used a lot in laptops and sensitive equipment that needs heat removing quickly.

Lenovo laptops uses a custom version pad PTM7950 and called PTM7958, Alienware laptops use Element 31 PCM paste basically a version of this stuff, etc more custom ones too and most highly electrically conductive too depending on the custom versions that have more metals in them like the Element 31, so don't get this on electrical parts like liquid metal. So if you don't know the TIM method used on a device don't just guess it's thermal paste because it's grey and looks like that when removed as that can cause issues later and hot spots. This stuff doesn't weep out (pump out) like thermal paste over time so don't go replacing TIM on a 4090fe/AIBs unless you have new PTM7950 pads/paste version or you want to risk liquid metal.

So you have been warned now and if you replace the paste and wonder why it's running hotter this is why also new cards or PCM TIM change may show higher temps at first few hours until the stuff settles after a few thermal cycles.


This is the paste tube version that can be used too :-

www.moddiy.com

Honeywell PTM7950 SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Paste

Buy Honeywell PTM7950 SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Paste for $19.99 with Free Shipping Worldwide (In Stock)
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Honeywell PTM7950SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive Phase Change Material (PCM) Paste Thermal Interface Materials

PDF from Honeywell for this stuff :-


Phase Change Materials

Phase Change Materials (PCM) are often used as matrix materials for thermal interface applications.
thermalmanagement.honeywell.com thermalmanagement.honeywell.com
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Video from Linus today about this stuff I mentioned above.
 
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