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NVIDIA 4000 Series

The steam numbers look good as all those mining Gpus nvidia sold have been going back to gaming rigs, numbers new sales numbers don't look quite so rosy.

Thats down to price of the new cards ; oh and second hand market prices are increasing again - that so called `flood` of ex mining gpu`s , never happened
 
Thats down to price of the new cards ; oh and second hand market prices are increasing again - that so called `flood` of ex mining gpu`s , never happened
It did happen but with nvidia holding back production and pricing the new stuff like a joke the used prices held up as that was the only decent option for a lot of people.
 
It is though as it is cut-down from previous gens...

node improvements ? for example if it matches / beats 3090ti while using much less power and retaining close to 70 tier pricing would you be calling out the cut down ? 3070 was pretty much on par with 2080ti for £469

the uplift from 3080 to 4080 16gb to me looks pretty decent , if the 70ti is close or beating 3090ti you can see uplift will be from last gen 3070ti

still need to see third party reviews not gonna go by nvidia's claim , and seeing how it compares to 3090ti at 1440p

if the peformance claims hold up its the pricing that sucks
 
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It really didnt, no flood of cut price 3080`s - unless you think msrp is cut price?? No flood at all.
As I said, used prices didn't fall further because of the fact that the newer gen stuff was priced so high.

Before the 4000 series was announced the 3000 series was in free fall but then stabilised and actually increased slightly due to the 4000 series pricing.

This was Jensens plan to prevent the price crash. Correct channel inventory "EG cut/hold back production" and price layering "price new cards higher than old" this is what prevented cards falling in price further.
 
As I said, used prices didn't fall further because of the fact that the newer gen stuff was priced so high.

Before the 4000 series was announced the 3000 series was in free fall but then stabilised and actually increased slightly due to the 4000 series pricing.

This was Jensens plan to prevent the price crash. Correct channel inventory "EG cut/hold back production" and price layering "price new cards higher than old" this is what prevented cards falling in price further.

Hardware unboxed disagrees with you on `free fall pricing` from their multi month charts; prices are still not under msrp and are now climbing again, what ever the reasons.
 
We need to be realistic here... the 4070ti has no founders edition so that 799 price just isn't going to happen is it. There will be the token '799 models' from the partners that magically never get restocked after the first week or so and then we'll see the rest in the 850-1000 range...

The 4000 series (and AMD is milking it too) pricing sucks and it's all due miners/scalers and the sheer stupidity/desperation of people during covid paying stupidly inflated prices.

You know... pc gaming is becoming quite depressing these days... you shouldn't need to spend this sort of money on 'mid tier' hardware
 
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The RTX 4080 is coming to the cloud on Nvidia's GeForce NOW cloud gaming service without a price increase over the 3080 (unusual from Nvidia). We poors will just have to get that.

Does anyone else think this is Nvidia's plan?
 
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This guy did a fantastic deep dive on the AMD issue (vapor chamber at fault), then disassembled it.

 
The RTX 4080 is coming to the cloud on Nvidia's GeForce NOW cloud gaming service without a price increase over the 3080 (unusual from Nvidia). We poors will just have to get that.

Does anyone else think this is Nvidia's plan?
That works out at £432 for 2 years which is far better than a £1200 4080 especially when electric is factored in.
 
Lets be positive, instead of the one Arc we have had time to make three of them, it sure is going to be one epic flood! :cry:
A used 3080 was going for around £1600 18months ago so in terms of the prices now there has been a crash.

Used market has been flooded with cards for months now but prices wont drop further while new cards have such bad price performance.
 
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