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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Colorful introduces GeForce RTX 4070 Ti graphics cards for up to $969​

Incoming rog 4070ti at $1300. GPU market is embarrassing.

 
A used 3080 was going for around £1600 18months ago so in terms of the prices now there has been a crash.

Used market has been flooded with cards for months now but prices wont drop further while new cards have such bad price performance.

I just don't think there was a flood. It has streamed into the mix but will be geographically based. The two countries benefiting from this will be the US and China. It is a fair observation to point out the ampere cards staying over msrp indicates the flood didn't happen in the UK. :)
 
The CES announcement today, one thing I really liked was the RTX Video Super Resolution feature coming in feb for 30 and 40 series cards. Upscales 1080P video streams - The only downside is that it is supported in Chrome and Edge only, so no Firefox use lol. The upscale is up to 4K.
 
£800 for a 4070 is an absolute joke . Built a machine early in the year patiently waiting for 4*** series but at this price it’s ridiculous so I’m selling up and buying a Mac studio my days of building computers is done . Can easily afford it but not being ripped off
Good on you, these companies should be punished even if you can afford it. It's the only way things will improve.
 
The CES announcement today, one thing I really liked was the RTX Video Super Resolution feature coming in feb for 30 and 40 series cards. Upscales 1080P video streams - The only downside is that it is supported in Chrome and Edge only, so no Firefox use lol. The upscale is up to 4K.
That's a pity because I use Firefox.
 
The CES announcement today, one thing I really liked was the RTX Video Super Resolution feature coming in feb for 30 and 40 series cards. Upscales 1080P video streams - The only downside is that it is supported in Chrome and Edge only, so no Firefox use lol. The upscale is up to 4K.

Very cool feature but wouldn't go back to chrome now because of the adblock situation. Thankfully most videos I watch are already 4k! Although this would be useful for people with poor connections.
 
I just don't think there was a flood. It has streamed into the mix but will be geographically based. The two countries benefiting from this will be the US and China. It is a fair observation to point out the ampere cards staying over msrp indicates the flood didn't happen in the UK. :)
It just shows Nvidia has such control that it dictates the market prices, even used stuff. With many fewer people upgrading to new stuff this time and selling off their old cards the mining cards have filled that void.

Had ADA released at last gens prices with a 90/80/70 before december and in good volume then used prices would have tanked hard.
 
My post stated £800 - £1000.
It is going to be an insane selling card, especially the ones closer to £800, were selling huge amounts of 3080 at £700-800 and the 4070Ti is faster, so its fair to say the sales on it are going to be insane.
I wouldn't hold your breath on that. Sure, it'll sell enough to make retailers a few quid. But insane? Nah, you'll get your usual FOMO clowns with more money than sense at the start, but once they've bought up, those who are sensible with their money will absolutely be putting it elsewhere until prices become realistic.

Some people, retailers included, really aren't reading the room. A lot of us can easily afford these cards, but we're not going to bend over and be shafted, before then suffering some pretty chronic buyer's remorse after realising you've spent over a grand on a card that is 800 quid's worth, tops.

Prices of 40 series cards will come down this year, because sales are pretty appalling right now and a brief rush on another con like the 4070ti ain't gonna change that.

You'll see.
 
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While I agree, the pricing is ridiculous for the 4070 Ti, we can't directly compare the launch price of the 4070 Ti against the 3070 etc. A lot has happened with the world since those cards launched - most notably the UK economy has gone to **** so the GBP/USD exchange rate is not as good as it was (though it has improved a bit in recent weeks) and also inflation plays a part. On top of that, logistics costs will be higher because of fuel prices etc too. I bet if it wasn't for these issues, these cards would've launched a fair bit cheaper.

I suspect the state of the world's economy, particularly the UK's, is probably more of an issue than Nvidia being greedy.
 
While I agree, the pricing is ridiculous for the 4070 Ti, we can't directly compare the launch price of the 4070 Ti against the 3070 etc. A lot has happened with the world since those cards launched - most notably the UK economy has gone to **** so the GBP/USD exchange rate is not as good as it was (though it has improved a bit in recent weeks) and also inflation plays a part. On top of that, logistics costs will be higher because of fuel prices etc too. I bet if it wasn't for these issues, these cards would've launched a fair bit cheaper.

I suspect the state of the world's economy, particularly the UK's, is probably more of an issue than Nvidia being greedy.

UK economy is nothing to do with it, even when the pound was stronger $1 equalled £1 in AMD and Nvidia's eyes. Jenson said himself that he was going to shaft consumers with 4000 series prices in order to sell the 3000 series.
 
Boy, 4060's sure are expensive these days.

When has the 60 series matched ever performance of previous flagship Ti?

3060 didn't match 2080ti, it's 40% slower
2060 didn't match 1080ti, it's 30% slower
1060 didn't match the 980ti, it's 25% slower

You say it's a 60 series but the performance is too high for 60 series, for it to be a 60 series the performance would have to be at rtx3070ti/rtx3080 level not rtx3090ti
 
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The RTX 4080 is coming to the cloud on Nvidia's GeForce NOW cloud gaming service without a price increase over the 3080 (unusual from Nvidia). We poors will just have to get that.

Does anyone else think this is Nvidia's plan?

Yes. Nvidia even said it themselves, most of the Nvidia user base still don't have an RTX GPU and we are now 3 generations in. That means a large portion of your user base isn't paying you anything, GeForce now is an attempt to monetise that user base by giving them large performance boost for a low monthly fee
 
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