NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

CuriousTomCat · 22 Aug 2020 at 15:26

AMDPower said:
Just saw the size of that card and price, lol if NVIDIA think I am paying £1500 for a card.

I am buying ps5 and keeping my 1080Ti, will wait till AMD is competitive. By the size of this thing you can tell NVIDIA was really worried about Big Navi. I assume AMD should be competitive next round. This rou d i doubt AMD can top that monster 3090.

no doubt about it 3090 is going it be crazy fast, if AMD can match the 3080 they are lucky.

almost £1500 for a gfx card lol.

You're giving up PC gaming because the 3090 is too expensive? My budget will be £250 max. Why does it matter that a £1500 card exists?

five8five · 22 Aug 2020 at 15:28

Poneros said:
It's not too bad, albeit awkward for air cooling the CPU I imagine. What I'm curious is, do the supposed prices have the 20/16GB variants in mind or will that be extra? And will the 3070 be = 2080 ti in performance. Hmmm.

The 3080 FE is supposed to have 10GB.
The custom cards are supposed to have 10GB or 20GB. I would think the leaked price is for the FE.

Gerard · 22 Aug 2020 at 15:30

AMDPower said:
I am buying ps5 and keeping my 1080Ti, will wait till AMD is competitive. By the size of this thing you can tell NVIDIA was really worried about Big Navi. card lol.

I think nvidia have looked at what happened in the cpu market and theyre taking no chances, unlike intel who sat with their thumbs up their ass and got caught out.

The card really is ridiculous looking, supposed 3 slot cooler tells us a lot about how much power this is gonna gulp. Last 3 slot card nvidia game out with iirc was the Titan z and that was an utter failure. Not saying this will be a fail because of the cooler size, but if they've had to go 3 slots it's out of necessity for more cooling headroom. Time will tell.

Illuminist · 22 Aug 2020 at 15:31

danlightbulb said:
Scaling is slightly off with all these, the connectors don't line up.

Here is one scaled properly:

Notice how the fan is now not quite round and the card seems elongated? Some dodgy image manipulation going on in these pictures.

The angle of the io plate on the 3090 is at a different angle also meaning the photo was taken from a slightly right sided perspective also... There is many people that have analysed this photo and called it to be fake anyway

humbug · 22 Aug 2020 at 15:37

Poneros said:
Not 2080 Ti, more like 2080/2070 Super. Based on the Digital Foundry tests. Granted I do think AMD will have some very competitive GPUs across the stack this time.

That's a 5700XT.

RDNA1 Terra Flops are give or take a couple % comparable to Turing's performance. The Series X is a 12TF GPU, compare that to 9TF on the 5700XT which sits around 2070 Supper performance, unless RDNA2 has a 30% regression in performance its around 2080TI, the 2080 Super has 11.2TF the 2080TI 14.2.

I'm pretty sure Digital Foundry said around 2080 Super performance.

It has 30% more shader than the 5700XT so its not going to be around the same performance.

ALXAndy · 22 Aug 2020 at 15:41

Someone pointed out a few things. Firstly the cards are not side by side. Secondly the aspect is off, as the PCIE connector is far too big on the supposed 3090. So it's not quite as big as it looks. However, the shoulder is the same height as my Kingpin so just know it's a big lass. A very big lass.

humbug · 22 Aug 2020 at 15:59

ALXAndy said:
Someone pointed out a few things. Firstly the cards are not side by side. Secondly the aspect is off, as the PCIE connector is far too big on the supposed 3090. So it's not quite as big as it looks. However, the shoulder is the same height as my Kingpin so just know it's a big lass. A very big lass.

If you look at @Illuminist post the card looks shrunk, i wonder if those are 120mm fan's on this beast.

robin66 · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:03

I am unsure if anyone else has made a point of this.

But does anyone else think that Nvidia is changing their product range to cover up for the large price increase since last generation?

There doesn't seem to be a 3080Ti this round. Just the 3090 monster card instead.

gpuerrilla · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:06

robin66 said:
I am unsure if anyone else has made a point of this.

But does anyone else think that Nvidia is changing their product range to cover up for the large price increase since last generation?

Have you read any of this thread? lol

Kaapstad · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:08

ALXAndy said:
Someone pointed out a few things. Firstly the cards are not side by side. Secondly the aspect is off, as the PCIE connector is far too big on the supposed 3090. So it's not quite as big as it looks. However, the shoulder is the same height as my Kingpin so just know it's a big lass. A very big lass.

Glad I'm using an open bench case for my 24/7 PC, it can take any size card.

deuse · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:10

robin66 said:
I am unsure if anyone else has made a point of this.

But does anyone else think that Nvidia is changing their product range to cover up for the large price increase since last generation?

There doesn't seem to be a 3080Ti this round. Just the 3090 monster card instead.

I think the 3080 Ti will come this time next year.

tyler_jrb · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:11

humbug said:
That's a 5700XT.

RDNA1 Terra Flops are give or take a couple % comparable to Turing's performance. The Series X is a 12TF GPU, compare that to 9TF on the 5700XT which sits around 2070 Supper performance, unless RDNA2 has a 30% regression in performance its around 2080TI, the 2080 Super has 11.2TF the 2080TI 14.2.

I'm pretty sure Digital Foundry said around 2080 Super performance.

It has 30% more shader than the 5700XT so its not going to be around the same performance.

Depends how it was calculated. It doesn't always work out as a 1-1 percentage increase. Such as the 2080Ti not being 70% faster than 2070 as it has 70% more shaders.

Although i think the 2080 assumtion will be pretty correct. I doubt it will be quite 2080Ti levels as even if it matches turing performance wise. Its still quite a bit behind specs wise 3328core vs 4352. And then of course you have the RTX/DLSS differences.

Still will be impressive for the £600 or whatever it will be.

Dirk Diggler · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:11

robin66 said:
I am unsure if anyone else has made a point of this.

But does anyone else think that Nvidia is changing their product range to cover up for the large price increase since last generation?

There doesn't seem to be a 3080Ti this round. Just the 3090 monster card instead.

They already did that last time round. The 2080ti was basically the Titan without the performance. It didn't even have Ti performance.

FoxEye · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:11

Perfect_Chaos said:
Which card is likely going to be best performance for the money? The 3080? Or have they likely now priced all the cards in a way that there's no price/performance sweet spot?

I think you've answered your own question, there

humbug · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:12

deuse said:
I think the 3080 Ti will come this time next year.

There is this, with 5120 Shaders it would sit right in the middle between the 2080TI and 3090.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-spe...y unlocked GeForce,mapping units, and 96 ROPs.

robin66 · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:12

Th0nt said:
Have you read any of this thread? lol

You expect me to read all of this read. You are having a laugh.

FoxEye · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:13

humbug said:
Well here's the thing.

The XBox Series X APU has 52 CU's running at 1900Mhz and an 8 core 16 thread Zen 2 CPU, the whole package power is 170 Watts. that's + 30% more CU's at the same clock speed and a Ryzen 3700X for about the same power as a 5700XT. so RDNA2 is much more efficient, probably about "50% better Performance per watt"

That APU is about as quick as a 2080TI, <snip>

I somehow doubt it, personally.

FoxEye · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:17

danlightbulb said:
Scaling is slightly off with all these, the connectors don't line up.

Here is one scaled properly:

Notice how the fan is now not quite round and the card seems elongated? Some dodgy image manipulation going on in these pictures.

Erm, if it was round before you stretched it and not round after you stretched it, it's because you only stretched it along one axis

The dodgy manipulation is possibly yours

Kaapstad · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:17

deuse said:
I think the 3080 Ti will come this time next year.

Don't think there will be a 3080 Ti.

I think we may see a 3090 Ti using the full fat GA102 chip.

The Titan may be on GA100 which will allow the above to happen.

humbug · 22 Aug 2020 at 16:20

tyler_jrb said:
Depends how it was calculated. It doesn't always work out as a 1-1 percentage increase. Such as the 2080Ti not being 70% faster than 2070 as it has 70% more shaders.

Although i think the 2080 assumtion will be pretty correct. I doubt it will be quite 2080Ti levels as even if it matches turing performance wise. Its still quite a bit behind specs wise 3328core vs 4352. And then of course you have the RTX/DLSS differences.

Still will be impressive for the £600 or whatever it will be.

Usually scaling is around 0.7, i took that into account.