Ridiculous? I find £1100 for a consumer grade graphics card ridiculous. That you saved up for it doesn't make it any less so. But you shouldn't feel that you need to be defensive about it. People do what makes them happy, often regardless of what others think. Many people will look down their nose at all of us here for having gaming PC's at all, considering the activity a waste of life. Luckily for OcUK, we do it anyway. But yes, your graphics card is ludicrous.
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**Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Thread**
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Ridiculous? I find £1100 for a consumer grade graphics card ridiculous. That you saved up for it doesn't make it any less so. But you shouldn't feel that you need to be defensive about it. People do what makes them happy, often regardless of what others think. Many people will look down their nose at all of us here for having gaming PC's at all, considering the activity a waste of life. Luckily for OcUK, we do it anyway. But yes, your graphics card is ludicrous.
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Totally agree with this statement, I consider myself a hardware whore xD But recently the pricing has just turned me off to the whole thing. I find myself far more interested in what I can achieve on a meager budget.
The recent Kaby Lake Pentiums were far more interesting to me than the 7700K was for example.
GPU's are just to crazily priced, losing interest. Right now im on budget CPU and got a used EVGA Classy on the way, I may just keep my PC like this. And buy used and lower tier stuff going forward
I think my days of blowing wads of cash at Intel, Nvidia and AMD are over. The bubble had to burst sometime, and the latest pricing has done it.
I guess I will have to get enthusiastic about budget gaming xD in contrast Certainly nothing exciting about spending £1200 on a graphics card.
I will enjoy the high end stuff through you guys who buy it and post user experience, I don't judge those that do buy the highest end I have done it for years. I just lost interest cos of pricing and limited gains.
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I think Nvidia are just getting too greedy in the wake of the PCMR resurgence... which ironically, if AMD can't compete enough to bring prices down. Will mean people will move back to consoles (I'm talking general mass market gamers, not us).
I don't know why people think that if AMD become competitive that prices will fall. The last few years has shown that people are willing to pay big bucks for graphic cards.
There are only two players in the market. There isn't really enough competition to affect prices that much.
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Agreed, pricing is just going to get worst folks.
AMD want a piece of that Nvidia pricing action as well.
Consumer suffers xD
I will learn to enjoy budget gaming
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I still can't wait to see what these cards can achieve. The 1080 Ti should be an absolute beast. Plus VEGA right around the corner too.
I take it from your signature and your statements above that you're downgrading and selling off a 6700k. Why? If you've already invested in it, might as well keep it and have a longer cpu/mobo platform going forward.
Yeah, this is a potential risk... but what competition does do, if not affect pricing is give you larger performance boosts per generations as they try to leaf frog each other. When we have no competition we get the measly 5% performance gains we've been getting from Intel.
So at least you get more for the stupidly large amount money you might be ready to spend.
I don't really believe that. Nvidia and AMD have to keep progress going forward because games are becoming harder to run. And people are playing at higher resolutions now as more and more people are buying bigger, faster monitors. VR is also growing rapidly. Not to mention, deep learning, super computers, workstation cards. etc. The demand is there for more and more performance.
The CPU market isn't like that, for most people there is no need to upgrade the CPU at all. For the normal home user there is no applications that you need a powerful CPU for. The demand to push performance just isn't there.
Deep Learning, super computers and workstation cards .etc... are all for professionals... which by the way, being one myself, CPU i always in demand! The problem is, there's less and less being dished out by AMD, Intel .etc... designs only get more complex and there's not enough compute to keep up. This has only gotten worse since AMD lost competitiveness.
I remember when an Opteron compute machine was killing Xeons at design compilations. That's when AMD were pushing Intel and as a result consumers got ubiquitous 64bit, multi-core, integrated memory controllers .etc... .etc... AMD started all of it and Intel responded, we all benefited.
Anyway, that's another topic.. you could be right, in the world of smartphones and app stores. We probably won't go back to actually getting worthwhile upgrades again. But at least there's a chance of it with AMD competing and none without them.
I never said anything about the cost of the card. The statement is that someone finding £1100 has no problem finding £1200 which isn't true. Nothing to do with anything after that.
I am not trying to be defensive about the card itself, I don't have it. But the opinion that people who pay such monies for said amount have the ability to spring additional money for any extra is not true.
Maybe read the whole statement next time.
But, that's my point, Deep Learning, super computers etc are all been taken over by GPU's as they are much, much better at it. So there is not only the push to increase performance from the consumer market, there is a huge push from the professional market too.
You are going back to the glory days of CPU's when applications and games needed more and more CPU power and that drove innovation. But now CPU's, for the most part, have become more powerful than any application needs. Applications and games are now designed to push more and more work onto the GPU.
You are right though, it's a discussion for another thread.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway back on topic. Anything new about the Ti in the media today? I've had a nosey and can't find anything even close to "facts"
A bit of chat about the shaders and potential vRAM amounts and type of vRAm used, but nothing really that hasn't been said on here before.
I wish we'd get some decent info to chew over.
A bit of chat about the shaders and potential vRAM amounts and type of vRAm used, but nothing really that hasn't been said on here before.
I wish we'd get some decent info to chew over.
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the fact is ....drum roll ... we don't really know anything other than it might turn up at some point, possibly. Is that factual enough ?
Oh, but I did read it. But perhaps my understanding of it was flawed, though? It happens sometimes... Regardless the majority of TXP owners, here at least, seem to have paid the extra for water blocks. And in some cases complete custom loops totaling several hundred pounds just to squeeze their TXP's. I'd also be willing to bet that Nvidia is still making sales despite their recent price rise, albeit perhaps in smaller numbers. I think that people who want the absolute best tend to go balls-deep and an extra £100 doesn't seem to make that much difference to them.
In your favor, though, I was swayed against the TXP by that extra hundred pounds or so. I couldn't stomach paying the extra for water-cooling, feeling that at the asking price, for a super-duper premium card, Nvidia should have released it with a more capable cooler to begin with. Its also the reason I'm waiting for the Ti. Although the longer I wait, the less interested I become.
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Yeah was selling my CPU and GPU to go Zen + 1080 Ti later on. But after using the lil Intel chip, I'm happy to just stick with it. It's actually really good lol.
The pricing of everything has just put me off, so for a while I'm gonna sit the high end out. I will learn to enjoy budget gaming xD, at least that's what I am telling myself
The amount of times Boomstick buys and sells parts he'd be better off just buying the top end and keeping it
Ha, yeah well was my hobby to try all the latest stuff, just getting to expensive for me to do it anymore. Hence my new found love for budget gaming xD
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Ah no worries
sorry got a little aggressive, I was probably not very clear then in my point. Here at least is a very small number though, relative to the total sold of TXP. And even then as you then say that extra £100 takes away from the monies that people could spend on buying a new block in the their watercooling loop.
I would suggest a lot of people who WC their GPU though appeared to already have a loop running and so only need the new block accordingly which that extra £100 would have covered.
I honestly feel that they should have sold the TXP with the current cooler and then an option for an extra £50 (pre £100 bump in price) with it to come pre-waterblocked in honest. If they teamed up with EVGA who do their own blocks and are Nvidia exclusive partners they could have had a very lucrative line and maybe even allowed EVGA to be specialist supplier for them also with their warranty etc.
That I feel would have made some great commercial sense and allowed people many more options.
Yeah was selling my CPU and GPU to go Zen + 1080 Ti later on. But after using the lil Intel chip, I'm happy to just stick with it. It's actually really good lol.
The pricing of everything has just put me off, so for a while I'm gonna sit the high end out. I will learn to enjoy budget gaming xD, at least that's what I am telling myself
Ha, yeah well was my hobby to try all the latest stuff, just getting to expensive for me to do it anymore. Hence my new found love for budget gaming xD
So what hardware does this budget gaming involve?