Nvidia Geforce 'Maxwell' Thread

ubersonic · 4 Aug 2014 at 01:42

RanxZy said:
If the GTX 880 isn't faster than a 780Ti it would really be a fail

It's predicted to be + or - 10% of GTX780ti performance and cost less than a GTX780, which will obviously affect the pricing of both those cards. Looks like nothing but win to me.

Yaayuh! · 4 Aug 2014 at 08:23

It's got to beat the GTX690 really.

RanxZy · 4 Aug 2014 at 11:23

ubersonic said:
It's predicted to be + or - 10% of GTX780ti performance and cost less than a GTX780, which will obviously affect the pricing of both those cards. Looks like nothing but win to me.

It's the 880 being minus 10% of a 780Ti that I'm worried about in that statement. I really think it would be wrong to release new architecture with the flagship moniker and not be at least 20% faster than the old gen single GPU fastest card.

If it is faster than a 780Ti I find it really hard to believe NVIDIA will price it less than a GTX 780 in reality. It seems that people predict what they would dream of, but even if it costs less to make than a 780 we are talking about NVIDIA here. The same company that prices a card at £2000+ and advertises it as a ultra gaming card.

I'm going to predict pretty much the opposite of what gregster did and say the 880 will be more than 10% faster than a 780Ti and cost more than £450 at launch.

Ian Evey · 4 Aug 2014 at 11:39

I cannot see this being below £319 which is the cheapest 780 at, Or the msi one @ £349 unless it is a slower card, no one really would be interested if its performance is on par with a 780 and the new card costing £300.

Would be a pointless card imo if its not faster or as fast as a TI for £349 ish.

RichardH754 · 4 Aug 2014 at 13:28

10% faster £399 at launch I`m going for!

opethdisciple · 4 Aug 2014 at 17:39

These are Maxwell based cards? Looking at specs is next to useless then as we are comparing it to current gen kepler cards. Not an Apples to Apples comparison.

Orangey · 4 Aug 2014 at 18:01

It's an arch that was projected for 16nm, designed originally for 20nm and bodged into 28nm. It's not going to be amazing, we can say that much.

bru · 4 Aug 2014 at 18:25

I really don't understand how people think it could be slower than a 780ti, I mean with what we have seen from Maxwell so far even if the 880 only has 1920 cores it could still be faster than the 780ti. I'm not suggesting that it will only have 1920 cores, but that is a third less than the currant 780ti and a 750 beats a 650ti with a third less cores.

Now obviously the smaller bus width will also play apart, but one rumour was 3200 cores which would make it an absolute monster.

I for one cannot wait. i7 5820, x99, 16GB DDR4 and an 870 will be a nice upgrade from my i7 920@4GHz and a 670.

(wont be much change from a grand though ouch.)

Boomstick777 · 4 Aug 2014 at 18:55

Compute performance is back with Maxwell as well, plus we haven't seen how the extra cache will effect the higher end cards on 256bit/bus. It could surprise us all. Either way if it's exceeds our expectations or disappoints, I can't afford one atm so makes no difference to me

I'll be waiting like a crouched tiger ready to pounce on the 20nm stuff next year. Will have the funds by then and hopefully even more impressive cards out.

~Mike~ · 4 Aug 2014 at 19:47

Boomstick777 said:
Compute performance is back with Maxwell as well, plus we haven't seen how the extra cache will effect the higher end cards on 256bit/bus. It could surprise us all. Either way if it's exceeds our expectations or disappoints, I can't afford one atm so makes no difference to me

I'll be waiting like a crouched tiger ready to pounce on the 20nm stuff next year. Will have the funds by then and hopefully even more impressive cards out.

20nm can't come soon enough

scotsdragon · 4 Aug 2014 at 20:48

Boom I thought you were loaded but yes we all want better cards, I don't care about die shrinks and stuff all you tech heads do that enough for us all, I just want to plug in and go OMG its awesome lol

Jono8 · 4 Aug 2014 at 21:55

bru said:
I really don't understand how people think it could be slower than a 780ti, I mean with what we have seen from Maxwell so far even if the 880 only has 1920 cores it could still be faster than the 780ti. I'm not suggesting that it will only have 1920 cores, but that is a third less than the currant 780ti and a 750 beats a 650ti with a third less cores.

Now obviously the smaller bus width will also play apart, but one rumour was 3200 cores which would make it an absolute monster.

I for one cannot wait. i7 5820, x99, 16GB DDR4 and an 870 will be a nice upgrade from my i7 920@4GHz and a 670. (wont be much change from a grand though ouch.)

This. Using the 750Ti as a benchmark, with 3200 cores and high clocks it will be a monster. Ok the memory bus not make it a 4k killer but for 1080p/1440p it sounds like the 880 could be a fantastic card.

Dicehunter · 4 Aug 2014 at 22:12

Jono8 said:
This. Using the 750Ti as a benchmark, with 3200 cores and high clocks it will be a monster. Ok the memory bus not make it a 4k killer but for 1080p/1440p it sounds like the 880 could be a fantastic card.

If it's 3200 cores with the 8GB option down the line we could finally have a nice successor to the 8800GTX

First time I started my rig up with the 8800GTX my jaw dropped, I want that feeling again !!!

bru · 4 Aug 2014 at 22:12

Jono8 said:
This. Using the 750Ti as a benchmark, with 3200 cores and high clocks it will be a monster. Ok the memory bus not make it a 4k killer but for 1080p/1440p it sounds like the 880 could be a fantastic card.

The 750/ti maxwells overclock like crazy aswell.

Disclaimer: this of course in no way means the 870/80 will

bru · 5 Aug 2014 at 01:37

As was posted in one of the other threads, this is rumoured to be a big core, well I guess they must have filled all that space up with something, lots and lots and lots of cuda cores....

Yaayuh! · 5 Aug 2014 at 08:03

Any idea if GDDR6 will be introduced?

Orangey · 5 Aug 2014 at 08:39

It was sidelined for HBM.

http://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/2cfwhh/when_should_we_expect_gddr6/

Yaayuh! · 5 Aug 2014 at 08:53

Orangey said:
It was sidelined for HBM.

http://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/2cfwhh/when_should_we_expect_gddr6/

Ah yes, forgot about HBM.

Marine-RX179 · 5 Aug 2014 at 08:54

Ian Evey said:
I cannot see this being below £319 which is the cheapest 780 at, Or the msi one @ £349 unless it is a slower card, no one really would be interested if its performance is on par with a 780 and the new card costing £300.

I think the reality of the pricing is probably going to be closer to the launch prices of the GTX670 and GTX680, and the pricing of the current cards at would probably has not much bearing on it (not directly at least).

So the GTX870 at around £330-£350, and the GTX880 at around £400-£450 (not at £550-£630 like the GTX780 did as it is not a fat chip).

Don't matter if the GTX870 was slightly slower than the GTX780...Nvidia will just wave the "lower power-consumption and temp" feature really hard like they did for the GTX750/GTX750Ti, and people will buy them even if they can get slightly faster card at the same price, but won't go for them being of being "old gen and hotter running"...

The GTX880 on the other hand would probably be like people said +/- 10% of the performance of the GTX780Ti, but pricing would probably at around £400-£450 as I mentioned above instead of the GTX780Ti's average £480-£550.

Boomstick777 · 5 Aug 2014 at 09:40

Orangey said:
It was sidelined for HBM.

http://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/2cfwhh/when_should_we_expect_gddr6/

Yup, these Maxwell / Upcoming AMD cards will be great, but HBM will be a game changer. 1TB/s+ of memory bandwidth potential :eek:

GPU's / APU's, anywhere HBM can be utilized will be amazing. Things are going to get much much faster and use less power.