** NVIDIA GTX 1080 FOUNDERS EDITION: WANNA PRE-ORDER?

RavenXXX2 · 21 May 2016 at 21:33

$699 lol

Gerard · 21 May 2016 at 21:35

[Damien];29528083 said:
Not sure if this video has been posted already but the whole 'founders edition = super awesome quality parts' claim sounds a bit hollow.

Not all that surprising, they already got the boot stuck into them by Journalists about their claims. Apparently the "thermal" as they kept saying (cooler) is high quality yet can't sustain boost clocks in some reviews, they claim they didn't overclock the board any due to not wanting to compete with their partners, but in reality its because the cooler can't handle it. It looks nice but thats about it.

Rroff · 21 May 2016 at 21:42

Gerard said:
Not all that surprising, they already got the boot stuck into them by Journalists about their claims. Apparently the "thermal" as they kept saying (cooler) is high quality yet can't sustain boost clocks in some reviews, they claim they didn't overclock the board any due to not wanting to compete with their partners, but in reality its because the cooler can't handle it. It looks nice but thats about it.

Its basically a mid-range card with mid-range electronics configuration *surprise*.

Not really surprised prices are high as 16nm production is costly to nVidia compared to 28nm even at its worst and 10nm will likely be less expensive again.

Gerard · 21 May 2016 at 21:44

Rroff said:
Its basically a mid-range card with mid-range electronics configuration *surprise*.

Not really surprised prices are high as 16nm production is costly to nVidia compared to 28nm even at its worst and 10nm will likely be less expensive again.

I wonder how late in production this founders edition gimmick was conceived as its blatantly nothing but a cash grab for people that have to have the newest card 10 minutes ago.

Caracus2k · 21 May 2016 at 21:45

Kaapstad said:
Something people seem to be missing about the pricing of the GTX 1070 and 1080.

There probably is very little difference in manufacturing cost of the two cards.

Yes I know the 1080 uses GDDR5X but it won't be a massive amount more expensive than GDDR5.

The 1070 also has some cores disabled but it is still the same chip.

My point is there will be a massive difference in pricing between the 2 cards.

Some would argue that the 1070 uses chips that can not be used in the 1080 but even this is lame as the 70 will probably outsell the 80 by a factor of 5 to 1.

Doesn't work quite like that.... Cards like the 970 and 980ti (in reference to the 980 and titan x respectively) allow NVIDIA to manage there yields by using some dies that don't make muster for the full fat products in cheaper alternatives with some (potentially defective) parts of the die disabled. If it was not for the 1070's, 970's and 980ti's if the world their respective 'full fat' gpu's would cost even more. So the manufacturing cost of the 1070 is not the same as the 1080?as it allows NVIDIA to use some dies they might otherwise discard...

r7slayer · 21 May 2016 at 21:46

[Damien];29528083 said:
Not sure if this video has been posted already but the whole 'founders edition = super awesome quality parts' claim sounds a bit hollow.

So they claim the card is made up of high quality components yet may be true they did skimp on using them lol.

Also the cooler is meant to be of high quality yet really isn't as great as they make out, seen as considering the amount of heat it needs to dissipate is considerably less than a titan x and the cooler i would say is on par with that and the same old shroud coolers they have used in the past.

Just appears nVidia are trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes and tell them anything just to make them buy the card.

Dervious · 21 May 2016 at 21:49

I'm sitting back and waiting for the dust to settle. Despite a previous bad experience with an Nvidia card, I had high hopes for these new cards. The asking price is a joke, so I'm waiting to see what AMD come up with, and/or early adopters tax to be removed.

Rroff · 21 May 2016 at 21:50

Gerard said:
I wonder how late in production this founders edition gimmick was conceived as its blatantly nothing but a cash grab for people that have to have the newest card 10 minutes ago.

Could have been fairly early on - I'm only guessing but as I posted about awhile back nVidia had a pretty big order in with Micron (I have no idea on any actual details beyond that so can only speculate) which may mean they put a load of money up as a commitment to get GDDR5X stuff early as well as 16nm not being cheap for them.

tyler_jrb · 21 May 2016 at 21:51

Gerard said:
Not all that surprising, they already got the boot stuck into them by Journalists about their claims. Apparently the "thermal" as they kept saying (cooler) is high quality yet can't sustain boost clocks in some reviews, they claim they didn't overclock the board any due to not wanting to compete with their partners, but in reality its because the cooler can't handle it. It looks nice but thats about it.

Yeah certainly not worth the extra money for standard parts basically. Sad that they claimed them as "better quality parts", when clearly its just your average reference card both power and thermal wise.

You can clearly see the difference on any AIB 980/Ti PCB.

siriq111 · 21 May 2016 at 22:09

geordiejc said:

I was just about to link this.
Well, it is definitely a big throttling going. Wait for aftermarket coolers and Ti version. It is sad.

D.P. · 21 May 2016 at 22:29

Gerard said:
Not all that surprising, they already got the boot stuck into them by Journalists about their claims. Apparently the "thermal" as they kept saying (cooler) is high quality yet can't sustain boost clocks in some reviews, they claim they didn't overclock the board any due to not wanting to compete with their partners, but in reality its because the cooler can't handle it. It looks nice but thats about it.

One problem with the reference cooler is the fan profile is set to run at lower RPM than the 980ti and 980 etc. This makes it quieter but it seems to be badly tuned for the GPU.

Non-reference boards will be much better, seems like nvidia didn't put that much time into optimizing fan profiles and cooler design in an attempt to soundly beat AMD

TheFloyd73 · 21 May 2016 at 22:36

You could bail the Greek economy out for less than two of these in SLI...

Jono8 · 21 May 2016 at 22:37

D.P. said:
Non-reference boards will be much better, seems like nvidia didn't put that much time into optimizing fan profiles and cooler design in an attempt to soundly beat AMD

There is nothing to beat so they probably didnt bother

AMD need to pull their finger out, espeically if we want these cards to be more reasonably priced.

tonyt3rry · 21 May 2016 at 23:38

melmac said:
Yes, I know what you are saying, it's what others are saying, but that has only started happening in the last few years.

New mid range cards after a die shrink have always been faster than the older high end cards, but never before has anyone said that those cards were high end. Look at the 8800GT, it was released before the 8800GTX but nobody suggested that the 8800 GT be called a high end card, even though it performed nearly as good as the 8800GTX and way faster than anything previously.

It's a mid range card pure and simple. Only clever marketing has changed people's perceptions and allowed for price increases.

while im waiting for the 1070 prices to come out my pc is sitting with a 9800gt in my pc as my graphics card

siriq111 · 21 May 2016 at 23:43

tonyt3rry said:
while im waiting for the 1070 prices to come out my pc is sitting with a 9800gt in my pc as my graphics card

Very wise ! I would wait for the AMD propose in the case as well.

Gerard · 21 May 2016 at 23:45

D.P. said:
Non-reference boards will be much better, seems like nvidia didn't put that much time into optimizing fan profiles and cooler design in an attempt to soundly beat AMD

You really can't help yourself can you? Always finding some way to spin a legitimate nvidia criticism into something anti amd :rolleyes:

.

deFiniLoGy · 21 May 2016 at 23:49

Question: Is the crowd hype for Pascal the reason for NV taking the opportunity to price up their 1080?

Lol.

D.P. · 21 May 2016 at 23:53

Gerard said:
You really can't help yourself can you? Always finding some way to spin a legitimate nvidia criticism into something anti amd .

What

I posted an absolute nvidia criticisms, haven't said a thing negative about AMD at all in that post :confused:

The FE cooler design, price, fan profile and launch information is all a mess IMO and very poorly executed.

siriq111 · 22 May 2016 at 00:00

deFiniLoGy said:
Question: Is the crowd hype for Pascal the reason for NV taking the opportunity to price up their 1080?

Lol.

This is how the market works. New hyped product price always goes up at the beginning , then goes down. The only difference is here, Nvidia made the first step to catch the first hype with the great/price point scenario.

I am very disappointed with the cooler/performance ratio. I could do an easy upgrade to my friend's rig . I won't , It's now worth it.

I am also very disappointed with the drivers recently . Causing more issues then before. I still hold my hope to see the new branch is getting better.

Rroff · 22 May 2016 at 00:43

D.P. said:
What I posted an absolute nvidia criticisms, haven't said a thing negative about AMD at all in that post

The FE cooler design, price, fan profile and launch information is all a mess IMO and very poorly executed.

You are a marked man now DP