Nope, that is twice the BW of the 1080. This is the point I made earlier today's, just no need for HBM2 at this stage.
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** NVIDIA GTX 1080 FOUNDERS EDITION: WANNA PRE-ORDER?
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Nope, that is twice the BW of the 1080. This is the point I made earlier today's, just no need for HBM2 at this stage.
There really needs to be some positive news on the 1070 soon to counter all the 1080 negativity. Has definitely pi**ed a lot of people off, but if the 1070 necks the 980Ti at a fair price, we'll have some peace (hopefully). I am still expecting a £400+ price for that though, even the AIB custom cards, but would love to be wrong.
No that's the wrong way round... there needs to be some positive news on the 1080, for example they have some good non FE cards near the $599 MSRP! that 1080ti as well hmmm...
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Only if your using a 4K monitor would you be better off with 384bit or 512bit Bus.
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Could be right, the HBM didn't seem to do much for the Fury cards, not from what i saw from the benchmarks at least.
The cards probably still won't even have enough grunt for major FPS in 4K anyway, so it's not like it matters.
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OCUK often have higher prices on launches when they know stock is going to be relatively low and they will sell every card they get regardless of what price they put up
other places often follow suit of what they have stock of and they realise other retailers have already done the same thing
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It'll all depends on who gets some initial stock. It's no good a company having the lowest price but no stock for weeks after launch. At least OC have said they will have some stock on day 1, will the others?
Despite the pricing I think many will be disappointed if the initial stock levels are going to be low - they'll probably sell out in a short time.
Despite the pricing I think many will be disappointed if the initial stock levels are going to be low - they'll probably sell out in a short time.
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The MSRP can change at a moments notice as Gibbo will tell you.
There have been card launches where he did not know the MSRP until just before he started selling them.
Supply and demand can play a huge part in the MSRP.
MSRP is not based on how much it costs to produce the card, it is based on how much the manufacturer thinks he can get for the product. This is something people can influence by not buying the cards.
IMO I'm not sure it will, i think the 1070 will need some more than mild overclock on it to match or beat a 980Ti. Although with it having more memory could be more appealing to some people!
Yes I am aware that the 1070 will use chips that can not be used in the 1080.
My point is when NVidia are selling 5 or even 10 GTX 1070s (at a far lower price) for each 1080 sold simple maths highlights the fact that they are making big margins on the 1080s. All the chips used in the 1070s can not be failed 1080 parts can they.
New rumor details came up:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1600793/...gtx-1080ti-and-gtx-1060-specifications-leaked
Not a chance lol.
The numbers are all wrong for the specs.
Based on transistor count compared to the 1080, the Pascal Titan is likely to have a 512 bit bus and double every thing else the 1080 comes with.
Looking at the pricing, like others, I will wait for the AIB cards before I put down any cash.
What's putting me off is: The thermal throttling due to poor blower and I'm not willing to spend the extra just to end up taking the reference blower off to water cool it.
Is this price just because Nvidia feel they can get away with it? I am starting to dislike this trend of prices ever more increasing after releases. Is the R&D costs being pushed onto us?
What's putting me off is: The thermal throttling due to poor blower and I'm not willing to spend the extra just to end up taking the reference blower off to water cool it.
Is this price just because Nvidia feel they can get away with it? I am starting to dislike this trend of prices ever more increasing after releases. Is the R&D costs being pushed onto us?
Very much agree with that... buying the 1080 FE for anything other than SLI or a small poor airflow build seems a very strange decision. As you say, getting one or more for WC'ing is nuts when you're paying for a cooler you're then ripping off and then unable to OC particularly well due to the single 8-pin power connector!!
It's not like Nvidia couldn't absorb R&D costs, and the pricing here really doesn't make a great deal of sense to me unless you look at it from a simple corporate greed point of view. They would obviously sell more cards if they priced it cheaper, but clearly that is not what they are interested in doing. They have positioned it as a premier top end product. The nonsense about not wanting to undercut AIB's with the FE was just a sham though, and will only allow them to charge even more. Where the 1070 falls in the pricing ladder will be a clearer indication of their intentions though, and if that ends up at £400+ it's going to anger a lot more people than the 1080 price has! Let's not forget AMD in all this though... what Polaris offers at a lower price may have an impact on pricing, we shall see...
From the specs and the 1080 benchmarks the 1070 should have no problem inching past the stock 980ti. The 1080is 25-45% faster than 980ti in most games, 40% seems more common than 25% mind. The 1070 will be about 20% slower than the 1080, 25% absolutely worse case theoretical extreme compute shader heavy and bandwidth limited benchmarks but 15-20% in most gaming scenarios. That should keep it faster than 980ti in most things, the odd exception probably but on average faster, and sometimes decently so. Especially in the newer games like Hitman and Tomb Raider where the 1080 has 40-43% lead.
No, like the Tx was 1.5x the 980, the pascal titian will be 1.5x 1080.
Don't think so
To do that would leave a massive amount of inactive silicon on the full fat Pascal chips.
Full fat Pascal uses over 15 billion transistors.
1.5 x 1080 would only use 10.8 billion of them.
Also with loads of cores disabled we could even see bus memory problems like those found on the GTX 970.
The TX is not 1.5x the speed of the 980.