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** NVIDIA GTX 1080 FOUNDERS EDITION: WANNA PRE-ORDER?

modez said:
Is your graphics card company playing games with YOU? Yes they are.

But not the game you would like to play.



They have all learned from other companies such as the I-phone products, Samsung, etc.etc. They realized people are never happy with what they have. So, every 9 months they add a little (a little) more icons or a little spec, or change the shape, to make it look like the "Next Big Thing Is Here." And people run, swim, dash, fly, trip and stumble, to go get "the next big thing." When in reality is not a big deal. But, they get you with all the commercials and fuss.



Did you know that manufacturing an I-phone in China by poor kids (and adults) cost around ($ 130.00). Yet Apple brings it to you for only (only) $800.00 every 9 months. Smile.



The same with Nvidia, Intel, etc. etc. They know the tricks and let it go on you little by little, squeezing all the juice $$$$ they can. So, before you buy your next phone or video card, ask yourself. Do I really need to spend this money on that? (9 out of 10 times- the answer is NO)
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Well the bubble will burst fear not. The last phone I bought was a Chinese smartphone (Xaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro). Faster than a Galaxy S6 and was only £120 brand new. I'll never be buying a Korean / Japanese / American phone again. This thing is every bit as good and a 1/5th the price.

Bring on the Chinese GPU's!
 
I hope the British enthusiast public don't cave in to this lunacy. New node or no, Nvidia are putting their stock price first and that's the long and short of it.

£620 for a 314mm² piece of silicon? El oh el. And no, I wont pay 700+ quid for a 1080Ti either.
 
Kaapstad said:
Please enlighten us with what you think the spec will be then.
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Did I say I knew? If it's based off a GP100 it HAS to use HBM2, if it's an entirely different chip... it's an entirely different chip and can be anything. You are the one saying it is based off GP100... but probably has 512bit bus and double everything from a 1080.

What you are arguing is literally impossible, Gp100 is a HBM2 design, it doesn't support gddr5x as it uses an HBM memory controller, sits an on interposer and isn't designed for attaching to 16+ gddr5x chips. If it isn't GP100, then you can't argue what it is based off GP100 specs like the GP100 transistor count... as the GP100's transistor count has exactly no relevance to the design of any other chip.

You don't have to know what something is to point out what something can't be. You can't have a consumer derivative of a interposer HBM2 chip, without an interposer or HBM2.
 
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kael13 said:
I hope the British enthusiast public don't cave in to this lunacy. New node or no, Nvidia are putting their stock price first and that's the long and short of it.

£620 for a 314mm² piece of silicon? El oh el. And no, I wont pay 700+ quid for a 1080Ti either.
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This^

I'm not buying. I refuse to get ripped off again.
 
Boomstick777 said:
In other ways too, it could allowed smaller designs, uses loads less power than GDDR5/X and bandwidth up to 1Tb/s. GDDR5X would just be Nvidia skimping out and Maximizing profits as usual lol. In fact after seeing the 1080 launch price. I expect GDDR5X over HBM 2.0 from Nvidia now. Hopefully AMD's Vega will be fully equipped with HBM 2.0.
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It looks like Nvidia have enough power headroom not to need HBM for GP102. If its not needed/does not enable them to produce a product they otherwise couldn't (or specifically that they care to produce- not sure they care too much about SFF) then it makes no financial sense to increase their cost of manufacture if you do not have to.
Hypothetically, should there be a consumer die larger/denser than GP102 in the works (for discussion sake lets start the rumour mill and call it GP200 :D) then using HBM2 would make sense as it would be necessary. It would allow them to leverage the power saving from HBM2 and any iteratively improved characteristics of a more mature process to possibly enable such a 'larger than GP102 die' consumer product.
 
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Wow those prices, and they are just the x80 model.

At those prices they just aren't going to sell all that well, which means developers will still be making games specced for older cards. So no reason to upgrade :D

beany_bot said:
Well the bubble will burst fear not. The last phone I bought was a Chinese smartphone (Xaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro). Faster than a Galaxy S6 and was only £120 brand new. I'll never be buying a Korean / Japanese / American phone again. This thing is every bit as good and a 1/5th the price.

Bring on the Chinese GPU's!
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lol yep. A guy at work bought some Chinese Android phone for £60! and I just can't fault it. When you look at it next to a £4-500 iPhone the Apple tax just cannot be justified in any way. The Chinese job even has dual sim and a higher capacity battery, quad core, 8gb ram, micro SD slot, etc. The only thing not as good is the thickness off the plastics, but for £60 who cares. It's cheap enough to be disposable.
 
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Muz333 said:
Do we have an official date for the non-founders edition cards from AIB partners? Or is it just going to be roughly 3-4 weeks?
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Might see some for launch. Many reviewers already have custom cards lined up so we should see them very soon.

I'd expect release to be shortly after computex for the top tier cards. Likes of EVGA, MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte will all be there. They did the same last year. Which is 31st May to 4th June.

We did have top cards for Ti launch day so I'd still expect some non ref cards for launch or a day or two after.
 
tyler_jrb said:
Might see some for launch. Many reviewers already have custom cards lined up so we should see them very soon.

I'd expect release to be shortly after computex for the top tier cards. Likes of EVGA, MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte will all be there. They did the same last year. Which is 31st May to 4th June.

We did have top cards for Ti launch day so I'd still expect some non ref cards for launch or a day or two after.
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This, I'd be expecting some custom cards on release day or at least within a week hopefully which I don't mind waiting :D
 
Klunt Bumskrint said:
I bought 2 titan x's at launch so I don't mind paying out but I'm offended by the price of the 1080.
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I know what you mean, I felt that way all the way back with the Titan trend.

But I am sure easyrider or someone will still come along and tell us it is because we are poor and cannot afford it :p
 
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