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Nvidia prices the norm?

Darujhistan said:
I'm going for £1500 plus.
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so we’re going up hundreds of pounds each gen?

that leads to a near doubling of prices every decade.

No chance I am supporting that,

will take a 3070 if it’s around 2080ti perf for less than £500.

otherwise I’ll get a second hand 2070 super.
 
McGraw said:
so we’re going up hundreds of pounds each gen?

that leads to a near doubling of prices every decade.

No chance I am supporting that,

will take a 3070 if it’s around 2080ti perf for less than £500.

otherwise I’ll get a second hand 2070 super.
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cards are pretty cheap right now. 2060 super was £299 on friday for limited number of units.

with coronavirus shortages impacting expect prices to go up 20-50% over the next few weeks.

again nobody needs to be buying anything more than a 1660 super. if people are buying 1440p+ screens and ultra widescreens, etc then they only have themselves to blame.

buy a 1080p screen and you can buy a GPU brand new for £200.

nobody is holding a gun to your head. if you buy the right screen and build around it you can build a PC for 1/3rd of the price of a higher res screen.
 
I don't know why so many people are so keen for their expensive graphics card to become obsolete and worthless. All that hard earned cash.

I'd be happy if progress slows down and my Vega 56 stays relevant for 5 more years. At least PC games developers would spend a lot more time optimising their code for the stagnated market instead of being lazy with inefficient code that requires a faster GPU than it should have.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
Well most people "shouldn't" when you consider Britain's £1.8 trillion debt. Most high end GPU purchases are bought on a credit card I guarantee it.
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It's the fact that he wants them to be high priced just because, not anything to do with debt. Some are just going to defend the upward trend of prices being 2x for the high end in just 2 generations.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
again nobody needs to be buying anything more than a 1660 super. if people are buying 1440p+ screens and ultra widescreens, etc then they only have themselves to blame.

buy a 1080p screen and you can buy a GPU brand new for £200.

nobody is holding a gun to your head. if you buy the right screen and build around it you can build a PC for 1/3rd of the price of a higher res screen.
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buy a 1080p screen in 2020 :eek:

I had a higher resolution monitor (2405fpw) then that 14 years ago and a 1440p one 7 years ago

I think a 27" 1440p monitor is a perfect all round size & resolution for most people
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Psycho Sonny said:
cards are pretty cheap right now. 2060 super was £299 on friday for limited number of units.

with coronavirus shortages impacting expect prices to go up 20-50% over the next few weeks.

again nobody needs to be buying anything more than a 1660 super. if people are buying 1440p+ screens and ultra widescreens, etc then they only have themselves to blame.

buy a 1080p screen and you can buy a GPU brand new for £200.

nobody is holding a gun to your head. if you buy the right screen and build around it you can build a PC for 1/3rd of the price of a higher res screen.
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But you could game at 600p with a good old 8800gtx. Only a fool would pay £200 to game at 1080p when you could game at 600p for 20 quid.
 
chaparral said:
buy a 1080p screen in 2020 :eek:

I had a higher resolution monitor (2405fpw) then that 14 years ago and a 1440p one 7 years ago

I think a 27" 1440p monitor is a perfect all round size & resolution for most people
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You can't have it both ways though.

You can't complain about pricing and then go out and buy a screen which requires a £1500 gpu to get the most out of it.

1080p - £200
1440p - £350
1440p high refresh - £500+
4k or ultra wide-screen with high refresh - £800+

Then you have people saying £500 is too much for a gpu. Well go buy a 1080p screen then.
 
If I actually got $1500 worth of GPU performance, I might be inclined to spend the money.

"The fastest" is a title that isn't worth much to me in a vacuum.

"By how much? "

"At what cost?"

I'm not looking to buy bragging rights. I want meaningful performance for my money.
 
Dirk Diggler said:
I'm not expecting that, if anything they will be less expensive.

The "conventional logic" that is being applied here would suggest that a xx80-ti should be at least £3k by now. Just look around this section of the forum and see how many complain about price, see how many have refused to buy at that price, and how many who did buy at that price are now saying that it was an upper limit for them. There were 3 big factors pushing GPU prices up at the time; Cost of components, new technology (RTX) & GPU mining.

There are actually now factors pushing prices down; RTX maturing, component cost lowering, mining has waned, console competition, possibly competitor competition.

I would also say, don't pay any attention to the model variants and just focus on the performance you actually need.
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Quoted for "called it" brag. :cool:
 
Dirk Diggler said:
It's only difficult to imagine 3070 matching the 2080ti because the latter is on a pedestal right now. Once the 3080 blows it away for around £550-650 then it'll be filed under EOL, and we'll all commence speculating about the 3080ti.
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This prediction held up well too.

Reading through this thread....damn. So many people that allowed a single crappy generation erase any memory of pretty much every generation before it.

Turing stagnated for a single generation, and a bunch of people just assumed that's the way things were going to be from then on.
 
Twinz said:
This prediction held up well too.

Reading through this thread....damn. So many people that allowed a single crappy generation erase any memory of pretty much every generation before it.

Turing stagnated for a single generation, and a bunch of people just assumed that's the way things were going to be from then on.
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Unfortunately, the retailers are using stock shortages to maintain the high price momentum. I really hope AMD can get some volume into the market and suppress this awful behaviour.

There are now a few companies I have vowed never to use again unless they're the only supplier of the item I need (which is why I went for a 3080-FE from Nvidia at MRSP).
 
Dirk Diggler said:
Unfortunately, the retailers are using stock shortages to maintain the high price momentum. I really hope AMD can get some volume into the market and suppress this awful behaviour.

There are now a few companies I have vowed never to use again unless they're the only supplier of the item I need (which is why I went for a 3080-FE from Nvidia at MRSP).
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+1 :)
 
I'm not sure AMD will do much to drop prices until the Nvidia shortages clear otherwise those with pre-orders will just cancel and re-order and I suspect e-tailers do not want to encourage that.
 
kazuya1337 said:
The idea AMD will throw easy money away by seriously undercutting Nvidia if they have similar performance is pretty deluded.
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Why ? They destroyed Intel sales this way, even to the point being twice as fast for same price.
Nvidia needs a kick from AMD as they did to Intel.

Intel has not recovered for a few years now from AMDs pricing and performance.

Look at how many diehard Intel folks have jumped onto AMD for the first time ever, I'm one of them it's the first time ever I have purchased an AMD CPU and guess why ? Because Intel is offering hardly any value for the performance to the point the 3950x which I purchased is less than half the price of their HEDT CPU that is a lot slower and uses more power. It's just a matter of time Nvidia get put in their place too. Tired of Nvidia and their lies and same happened with Intel and as we see Intel is now paying for it. Vote with your wallets not fake lies from these companies that behave this way.
 
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otester said:
I'm not sure AMD will do much to drop prices until the Nvidia shortages clear otherwise those with pre-orders will just cancel and re-order and I suspect e-tailers do not want to encourage that.
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E-tailers will have no say in the matter. AMD don't need to release a 3080 killer, they just need to get some volume of stock into the market that's priced accordingly e.g. a 3070 rival, even a 2080ti rival that's less than £1,000+ (I still can't believe they sold for that :p)

I'm not an advocate of the school of thought that AMD should be competitive so that we can all buy cheaper Nvidia cards. Hopefully AMD can release a viable range at a fair MRSP with decent volume. Are people really going to sit in that 10,000 deep virtual queue to buy a card that hasn't been manufactured yet, paying a £200 mark up to greedy retailers, when AMD have a product to offer?

If I hadn't got my hands on a 3080-FE for MRSP, then I was fully prepared to wait and buy something slower from AMD so long as it was an upgrade to my 1080ti with HDMI 2.1 compatibility.
 
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